Republican Prime Debate #2: Television Coverage
The GDELT Project and the Internet Archive are partnering together to help better understand which soundbites and speakers are dominating the political discourse on television. In particular, we are working to translate the social media concepts of "memes" and "going viral" to the television world. Using the Internet Archive's Television News Archive, which monitors major American and international television stations in realtime, along with an archive of more than 735,000 television shows since 2009, we scan all monitored television programming for audio fingerprints of each soundbite of selected major political speeches and identify all excerpts of those soundbites across television news shows in the following days. The tool we use, audfprint, developed by the Laboratory for the Recognition and Organization of Speech and Audio at Columbia University, scans the audio track of each show, so it is not dependent on closed captioning, which is extremely noisy and entirely absent from many foreign language broadcasts. The tool is extremely sensitive, able to detect brief excerpts even when they are overdubbed by a commentator and/or other sound effects.
Today we are excited to unveil our latest application: the Republican Presidential Prime Debate, held at 8PM EST on September 16, 2015 in the Ronald Reagan Library in Simi Valley. The entire transcript of the debate was hand-segmented into soundbites and all television news programming monitored by the Internet Archive for 24 hours following the debate were scanned for any excerpt of those soundbites, which are displayed below. Browse the entire transcript below and click on any passage to see how many times and where it was excerpted, and click on the video icon to the left of each passage or the list of shows mentioning the excerpt in the bottom right to view a brief video clip of the soundbite. These numbers only reflect those television shows monitored by the Internet Archive, representing only a small set of television stations in the United States. Thus, these numbers are far from exhaustive in terms of measuring the total reach of the debate, but offers a powerful glimpse into which pieces of the speech resonated and where.
What you are seeing here is a first glimpse of a whole new way of exploring television, using enormously powerful computer algorithms as a new lens through which to explore the Internet Archive's massive archive of television news to create for the first time a way of tracking what's "going viral" on television. Quite literally this project took an hour-long political speech, broke it into soundbites, and scanned two weeks of national television news programming for any excerpt of any of those soundbites. Imagine the future possibilities for tracking how soundbites move between social and mainstream media, and the future ability to apply these techniques to explore soundbites in online video!
Visualizing the Debate
The final results of this analysis are available through the interface below. By default the entire debate transcript is shown, but you can use the search box below to narrow to only soundbites containing a particular keyword or that were aired on a particular station or show. The timeline below shows how many times each soundbite was broadcast. As you scroll through the transcript, the top-most paragraph will automatically highlight in yellow and the corresponding time period will highlight in the timeline below,l while the sidebar to the right of the transcript will display key statistics about that passage, along with a list of links to view previews of every identified mention of that soundbite on a news show. The timeline allows you to zoom into any section to see it more clearly - click anywhere in the middle of the graph on the white background (not the bottom of the graph) and drag with your mouse to highlight a section of the timeline - a "reset zoom" button will appear at the top right of the timeline display to zoom back out to the original view. While zoomed in you can hold down the shift key on your keyboard and click and drag to pan the timeline forward/backwards.
By default the entire debate transcript is displayed below. You can use the options below to filter to only a subset of the debate, such as only those lines appearing on a particular television station or show, or only those lines containing a certain keyword/phrase or spoken by a particular person. Only lines matching all of your criteria below are included.
VIEW BY-STATION BREAKDOWN
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(PAUL) Good evening, everyone. Im an eye surgeon from Bowling Green, Kentucky. My wife, Kelly, and I have been married for nearly 25 years, and I spend my days defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
(RUBIO) Thank you. My name is Marco Rubio. Im from Florida. My wife Jeanette and I are the proud -- weve been married 17 years, and were the proud parents of four children, two of whom were able to join us here this evening.
(TAPPER & CRUZ) TAPPER: Senator Cruz? CRUZ: Im Ted Cruz. I am the son of an Irish-Italian mom and a Cuban immigrant dad who fled oppression and came to America seeking freedom. Im a husband to my best friend, Heidi, whos here tonight. Im a dad to two little girls who are the loves of my life, Caroline and Catherine.
(CRUZ) If youre fed up with Washington, if youre looking for someone to stand up to career politicians in both parties, Im the only one on this stage who has done that over and over again, and if we stand together, we can bring America back.
(CARSON) I stress the pediatric part of my career because the reason that Ive gotten involved in this race is because Im very concerned about the future of our children, and the direction of our country is one that does not portend well, unless we, the people, intervene and retake our rightful place at the pinnacle.
(TRUMP) Im Donald Trump. I wrote The Art of the Deal. I say not in a braggadocious way, Ive made billions and billions of dollars dealing with people all over the world, and I want to put whatever that talent is to work for this country so we have great trade deals, we make our country rich again, we make it great again.
(BUSH) Im Jeb Bush, and I believe Americas on the verge of its greatest century, and Im ready to lead. Im a committed, conservative reformer that cut taxes, that balanced budgets, that took on the special interest in Florida, and we won.
(WALKER) Good evening, Im Scott Walker, and tonight, I want to thank and Mrs. Reagan, and the Reagan Library for hosting us. You see, in my lifetime, the greatest president was a governor from California. Ronald Reagan knew how to go big, and go bold.
(FIORINA) Good evening. My story, from secretary to CEO, is only possible in this nation, and proves that everyone of us has potential. My husband, Frank, of 30 years, started out driving a tow truck for a family owned auto body shop.
(FIORINA) We have come to a pivotal point in our nations history where this nations possibilities and potential are being crushed by a government grown so big, so powerful, so inept, so corrupt, and a political class that refuses to do anything about it. I am prepared to lead the resurgence of this great nation. (APPLAUSE)
(KASICH) By the way, I think I actually flew on this plane with Ronald Reagan when I was a congressman, and his goals, and mine, really much -- are pretty much the same. Lift Americans, unify, give hope, grow America, and restore it is to that great, shining city on a hill.
(CHRISTIE) Hi, my name is Chris Christie, and Id like to you take the camera off me and put it on the audience because Id like to ask all of you, how many of you, raise your hand, believe that in todays Barak Obama America your children will have a better life than youve had?
(CHRISTIE) You see? Thats why Im running for President. because leadership is not about me, its about our country. And, what we talk about tonight, its not about us, its about the people in the audience tonight,
(CHRISTIE) because in seven short years this president has stripped away their trust, and their faith, and their belief that the next generation will have a better life. Hes stolen that from us, and when Im president, Im going to take it back. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) Thank you one and all for being here. There are many important policy issues facing our nation. Were going to get to many of them tonight, but I do want to start off with some current events in the news, and also some of the comments the candidates have recently made on the campaign trail.
(TAPPER) Mrs. Fiorina, I want to start with you. Fellow Republican candidate, and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, has suggested that your partys frontrunner, Mr. Donald Trump, would be dangerous as President. He said he wouldnt want, quote, such a hot head with his finger on the nuclear codes.
(FIORINA) I also think that one of the benefits of a presidential campaign is the character and capability, judgment and temperament of every single one of us is revealed over time and under pressure. All of us will be revealed over time and under pressure. I look forward to a long race.
(TAPPER) As far as temperament -- and we all know that -- as far as temperament, I think I have a great temperament. I built a phenomenal business with incredible, iconic assets, one of the really truly great real-estate businesses.
(TAPPER) But I will tell you this: What I am far and away greater than an entertainer is a businessman, and thats the kind of mindset this country needs to bring it back, because we owe $19 trillion right now, $19 trillion, and you need this kind of thinking to bring our country back.
(PAUL) I kind of have to laugh when I think of, Mmm, sounds like a non sequitur. He was asked whether or not he would be capable and it would be in good hands to be in charge of the nuclear weapons, and all of a sudden, theres a sideways attack at me.
(PAUL) I think that really goes to really the judgment. Do we want someone with that kind of character, that kind of careless language to be negotiating with Putin? Do we want someone like that to be negotiating with Iran?
(PAUL) because I think his response, his -- his visceral response to attack people on their appearance -- short, tall, fat, ugly -- my goodness, that happened in junior high. Are we not way above that? Would we not all be worried to have someone like that in charge of the nuclear arsenal?
(TAPPER) Governor Bush told me last week when I read him the quote from Governor Jindal that he agrees youre not a serious candidate. Tell Governor Bush why you are a serious candidate and what your qualifications are to be commander-in-chief.
(TRUMP) Ive actually been in politics all my life, although Ive been on that side as opposed to this side. Im now a politician for about three months. Obviously, Im doing pretty well. Im number one in every polls (sic) by a lot.
(TRUMP) When markets changed, when things turned, I heard Governor Pataki, who, by the way, was a failed governor in New York, a very seriously failed -- he wouldnt be elected dog catcher right now. I heard what he had to say.
(TRUMP) Im a businessman, did really well, really well, and Jeb, what I want to do is put that ability into this country to make our country rich again. And I can do that, and Im not sure that anybody else in the group will be able to do that.
(BUSH) This administration, with President Obama and Hillary Clinton, has created insecurity the likes of which we never wouldve imagined. Theres not a place in the world where were better off today than six and a half years ago.
(WALKER) We dont need an apprentice in the White House. We have one right now. He told us all the things we wanted to hear back in 2008. We dont know who you are or where youre going. We need someone who can actually get the job done. And you talked about business.
(TRUMP & WALKER ) TRUMP: Well, in Wisconsin... WALKER You -- you -- let me finish... TRUMP: Excuse me. WALKER No, no... TRUMP: In Wisconsin, youre losing $2.2 billion right now. WALKER Youre using the talking... TRUMP: I would do so much better than that.
(WALKER) You want to talk about balanced budgets? You took four major projects into bankruptcy over and over and over again. You cant take America into bankruptcy. Thats whats wrong with the politicians in Washington right now. They think we can take a country into bankruptcy. (CROSSTALK)
(TRUMP) Every major business leader, has used the -- I never went bank bankrupt, by the way, as you know, everybody knows. But -- hundreds of companies, hundreds of deals, I used the law four times and made a tremendous thing. Im in business. I did a very good job.
(TRUMP) But I will say this, and people are very, very impressed with what Ive done, the business people. But when the folks of Iowa found out the true facts of the job that youve done in Wisconsin, all of a sudden you, tubed (ph), he was No. 1 and now hes No. 6 or seven in the polls.
(TRUMP) So, look, we brought it out, you were supposed to make a billion dollars in the state. You lost 2.2 -- you have right now, a huge budget deficit. Thats not a Democratic point. Thats a point. Thats a fact. And when the people of Iowa found that out, I went to No. 1 and you went down the tubes.
(WALKER) We balanced a $3.6 billion budget deficit, we did it by cutting taxes -- $4.7 billion to help working families, family farmers, small business owners and senior citizens. And its about time people in America stand up and take note of this.
(WALKER) If you want someone that can actually take on the special interest of Washington, which you yourself said you were part of, using the system, we need somebody that will stand up and fight for average Americans to put them back in charge of their government. Im the one who is taking that on. Ill do that as your next president.
(KASICH) isten, you know, I -- if I were sitting at home and watch thing back and forth, I would be inclined to turn it off. I mean, people at home want to know across this country, they want to know what were going to do to fix this place,
(TAPPER & KASICH) TAPPER: We have a lot of issues coming up, sir. KASICH: But -- but wait a minute. Its a lot of ad hogshead. Now, I know that it may be buzzing out there, but I think its important we get to the issues, because thats what people want, and they dont want all this fighting. TAPPER: We are getting to the issues, sir. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) Phenomenon going on in the race is the political outsiders in the race, Dr. Carson, Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina, all together, have majority support in the polls. Governor Christie, I want to ask you about something that Dr. Carson said the other day.
(TAPPER) Dr. Carson said campaigning is easier for him, because hes not a politician. He can just tell the truth, therefore, while politicians, quote, Have their finger in the air to see and do what is politically expedient. Governor Christie, tell Dr. Carson, is that a fair description of you?
(CHRISTIE) As far as being an outsider is concerned -- as far as being an outsider is concerned, let me tell you this, Jake, Im a Republican in New Jersey. I wake up every morning as an outsider. I wake up every morning with a Democratic legislature who trying to beat my head in and fight me because Im trying to bring conservative change to a state that needed it desperately.
(CHRISTIE) And so, everyone can talk us here about their credentials. But the bottom line is, every morning I get up, I veto 400 bills from a crazy liberal Democratic legislature, not one of them has been overridden. Ive vetoed more tax increases than any governor in American history, according to Americans for Tax Reform.
(CHRISTIE) So, I know this much, that what the American people want to hire right now is somebody who believes in them. And believes that they are the ones who can fix our country. I will be the vessel through which they can fix this country, but its not about me.
(CARSON) That is not the reason that I have gotten into this thing. Im extraordinary concerned about the direction of this country, the divisiveness that is going on, fiscal irresponsibility, the failure to take a leadership position in the world.
(CARSON) All of those things will lead to a situation where the next generation will not have a chance that weve had now. So I dont -- I dont want to really get into describing whos a politician and whos not a politician, but I think the people have kind of made that decision for themselves already, and will continue to do so as time goes on.
(FIORINA) Jake, Ill tell you -- Ill tell you why people are supporting outsiders. Its because you know what happens if someones been in the system their whole life, they dont know how broken the system is. A fish swims in water, it doesnt know its water. Its not that politicians are bad people, its that theyve been in that system forever.
(FIORINA) The truth is 75 percent of the American people think the government is corrupt; 82 percent of the American people think these problems that have festered for 50 years in some cases, 25 years in other cases. The borders been insecure for 25 years; 307,000 veterans have died waiting for health care. These things have gone on for so long because no one will challenge the status quo.
(FIORINA) You know what a leader does? They challenge the status quo, they solve problems that have festered for a long time and they produce results. That is what my whole life has been about. People know this is about far more than replacing a D with an R --
(TAPPER) Governor Bush, in addition to the fact that hes an outsider, one of the reasons Mr. Trump is a frontrunner, Republican voters say, is because they like the fact that he is not bought and paid for by wealthy donors. Mr. Trump has repeatedly said that the $100 million youve raised for your campaign makes you a puppet for your donors. Are you?
(BUSH) No. Absolutely not. People are supporting me because I have a proven record of conservative leadership where I cut taxes $19 billion over eight years. We shrunk the state government workforce, we created a climate that led the nation in job growth seven out of eight years. We were one of two states to go to AAA bond rating.
(BUSH) People know that we need principle-centered leadership, a disrupter to go to Washington, D.C. The one guy that had some special interests that I know of that tried to get me to change my views on something -- that was generous and gave me money -- was Donald Trump. He wanted casino gambling in Florida --
(TRUMP & BUSH ) TRUMP: I didnt -- BUSH: Yes you did. TRUMP: Totally false. BUSH: You wanted it and you didnt get it because I was opposed to -- TRUMP: I would have gotten it. BUSH: -- casino gambling before -- TRUMP: I promise I would have gotten it.BUSH: during and after. And thats not -- Im not going to be bought by anybody. TRUMP: I promise if I wanted it, I would have gotten it.
(TRUMP) No. I just will tell you that, you know, Jeb made the statement. Im not only referring to him. I -- a lot of money was raised by a lot of different people that are standing up here. And the donors, the special interests, the lobbyists have very strong power over these people.
(TRUMP) Im spending all of my money, Im not spending -- Im not getting any -- I turned down -- I turn down so much, I could have right now from special interests and donors, I could have double and triple what hes got. Ive turned it down. I turned down last week $5 million from somebody.
(TRUMP) So I will tell you I understand the game, Ive been on the other side all of my life. And they have a lot of control over our politicians. And I dont say that favorably, and Im not sure if theres another system, but I say this. I am not accepting any money from anybody. Nobody has control of me other than the people of this country. Im going to do the right thing.
(TRUMP & BUSH) TRUMP: Thats true. Thats true. BUSH: -- because you gave her money. Maybe it works for Hillary Clinton -- TRUMP: I was -- excuse me, Jeb. BUSH: -- it doesnt work for anybody on this -- on stage. TRUMP: I was a businessman, I got along with Clinton, I got along with everybody. That was my job, to get along with people.
(TRUMP & BUSH) BUSH: But the simple fact is -- TRUMP: I didnt want to -- excuse me. One second. BUSH: No. The simple fact is, Donald, you could not take -- TRUMP: OK, more energy tonight. I like that. (LAUGHTER) Look -- BUSH: I was asked the question.
(TRUMP) I didnt want -- it was my obligation as a businessman to my family, to my company, to my employees, to get along with all politicians. I get along with all of them, and I did a damn good job in doing it. Go ahead.
(BUSH & TRUMP) BUSH: So he supports Pelosi, he supports Schumer, he supports Clinton -- TRUMP: Got along with everybody. BUSH: When he -- and he -- when he asked -- when he asked Florida to have casino gambling, we said no. TRUMP: Wrong.
(CARSON) You know, when I entered this race, all the political pundits said its impossible; you cant do it because youre not connected with the money. And theres no way that you can raise what you need in order to compete successfully.
(CARSON) I in no way am willing to get in the bed with special interest group or lick the boots of billionaires. I have said to the people if they want me to do this, please get involved. And we now have over 500,000 donations, and the money is coming in. But the pundits forgot about one thing, and that is the people. And they are really in charge.
(TAPPER) Thank you, Dr. Carson. Lets move to Russia if we could. Russia is sending troops and tanks into Syria right now to prop up a U.S. enemy, Bashar al-Assad. President Obamas incoming top general says, quote, Russia presents the greatest threat to our national security.
(TAPPER) Mr. Trump, you say you can do business with President Vladimir Putin, you say you will get along, quote, very well. What would you do right now if you were president, to get the Russians out of Syria?
(TRUMP) Syrias a mess. You look at whats going on with ISIS in there, now think of this: were fighting ISIS. ISIS wants to fight Syria. Why are we fighting ISIS in Syria? Let them fight each other and pick up the remnants.
(TRUMP) I would talk to him. I would get along with him. I believe -- and I may be wrong, in which case Id probably have to take a different path, but I would get along with a lot of the world leaders that this country is not getting along with.
(TRUMP) We dont get along with China. We dont get along with the heads of Mexico. We dont get along with anybody, and yet, at the same time, they rip us left and right. They take advantage of us economically and every other way. We get along with nobody.
(TRUMP) I believe that I will get along -- we will do -- between that, Ukraine, all of the other problems, we wont have the kind of problems that our country has right now with Russia and many other nations.
(TAPPER) Senator Rubio, youve taken a very different approach to the -- the question of Russia. Youve called Vladimir Putin a, quote, gangster. Why would President Rubios approach be more effective than President Trumps?
(RUBIO) Well, first of all, I have an understanding of exactly what it is Russia and Putin are doing, and its pretty straightforward. He wants to reposition Russia, once again, as a geopolitical force.
(RUBIO) What he is doing is he is trying to replace us as the single most important power broker in the Middle East, and this president is allowing it. That is what is happening in the Middle East. Thats whats happening with Russia, and...
(FIORINA & TAPPER) FIORINA: Having... TAPPER: Ms. Fiorina, you have met... FIORINA: Having met Vladimir Putin, if I may... TAPPER: ...yeah, youve met Vladimir Putin. Yes. FIORINA: Having met Vladimir Putin, I wouldnt talk to him at all. Weve talked way too much to him.
(FIORINA) What I would do, immediately, is begin rebuilding the Sixth Fleet, I would begin rebuilding the missile defense program in Poland, I would conduct regular, aggressive military exercises in the Baltic states.
(FIORINA) Id probably send a few thousand more troops into Germany. Vladimir Putin would get the message. By the way, the reason it is so critically important that every one of us know General Suleimanis name is because Russia is in Syria right now, because the head of the Quds force traveled to Russia and talked Vladimir Putin into aligning themselves with Iran and Syria to prop up Bashar al- Assad.
(FIORINA) Russia is a bad actor, but Vladimir Putin is someone we should not talk to, because the only way he will stop is to sense strength and resolve on the other side, and we have all of that within our control.
(FIORINA) We could rebuild the Sixth Fleet. I will. We havent. We could rebuild the missile defense program. We havent. I will. We could also, to Senator Rubios point, give the Egyptians what theyve asked for, which is intelligence. We could give the Jordanians what theyve asked for...
(TAPPER & FIORINA ) TAPPER: Thank you, Ms. Fiorina. FIORINA: ...bombs and materiel. We have not supplied it... TAPPER: Thank you. FIORINA: ...I will. We could arm the Kurds. Theyve been asking us for three years. All of this is within our control. (APPLAUSE) TAPPER: Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Fiorina.
(TAPPER) While youre -- while you brought up the subject of General Suleimani of the Quds forces from Iran, the next president, no matter who he or she may be, will inherit President Obamas Iran deal.
(TAPPER) Senator Cruz, Governor Kasich says that anyone who is promising to rip up the Iran deal on day one, as you have promised to do, is, quote, inexperienced, and, quote, playing to a crowd. Respond to Governor Kasich, please.
(CRUZ) Well, let me tell you, Jake, the single biggest national security threat facing America right now is the threat of a nuclear Iran. Weve seen six and a half years of President Obama leading from behind. Weakness is provocative, and this Iranian nuclear deal is nothing short of catastrophic.
(CRUZ) This deal abandons four American hostages in Iran, and this deal will only accelerate Irans acquiring nuclear weapons. Youd better believe it. If I am elected president, on the very first day in office, I will rip to shreds this catastrophic Iranian nuclear deal. (APPLAUSE)
(CRUZ) Well, lets be clear when it comes to experience. What President Obama wants to do is hes run to the United Nations, and he wants to use the United Nations to bind the United States, and take away our sovereignty.
(CRUZ) Well, I spent five and a half years as a Solicitor General of Texas, the lead lawyer for the state, in front of the U.S. Supreme Court, and I went in front of the Supreme Court, and took on the world court of the United Nations in a case called Medellin v. Texas, and we won a historic victory saying the World Court, and the U.N., has no power to bind the United States, and no President of the United States, Republican or Democrat, has the authority to give away our sovereignty.
(CRUZ) And, so, if theres anyone up here who would be bound by this catastrophic deal with Iran, theyre giving up the core responsibility of commander in chief, and as president, I would never do that.
(KASICH) Well, let me just say this. First of all, I think its a bad agreement, I would never have done it. But, you know, a lot of our problems in the world today is that we dont have the relationship with our allies. If we want to go everywhere alone, we will not have the strength as (ph) if we could rebuild with our allies.
(KASICH) Now, this agreement, we dont know whats going to happen in 18 months. I served on the Defense Committee for 18 years. Ive seen lots of issues in foreign affairs, and foreign -- in terms of global politics, you have to be steady.
(KASICH) Now, heres the -- if they cheat, we slap the sanctions back on. If they help Hamas, and Hezbollah, we slap the sanctions back on. And, if we find out that they may be developing a nuclear weapon, than the military option is on the table.
(TAPPER) I want to go to Senator Paul. Senator Paul, the White House is rolling out the red carpet next week for the President of China, President Xi. Governor Walker says that President Obama should cancel the state dinner because of Chinas currency manipulation, and because of Chinas alleged cyber attacks against the United States. Is Governor Walker right?
(PAUL) I think this goes back to essentially what weve been saying for the last two or three questions. Carly Fiorina also said were not going to talk with Putin. Well, think if Reagan had said that during the Cold War? We continued to talk with the Russians throughout the Cold War which is much more significant that where we are now.
(PAUL) Should we continue to talk with Iran? Yes. Should we cut up the agreement immediately? Thats absurd. Wouldnt you want to know if they complied? Now, Im going to vote against the agreement because I dont think theres significant leverage, but it doesnt mean that I would immediately not look at the agreement, and cut it up without looking to see if whether or not Iran has complied.
(PAUL) The same goes with China. I dont think we need to be rash, I dont think we need to be reckless, and I think need to leave lines of communication open. Often we talk about whether we should be engaged in the world, or disengaged in the world, and I think this is an example of some who want to isolate us, actually, and not be engaged.
(PAUL) We do need to be engaged with Russia. It doesnt mean we give them a free pass, or China a free pass, but, to be engaged, to continue to talk. We did throughout the Cold War, and it would be a big mistake not to do it here.
(WALKER) Two parts to that, one on China, one back for a second on Iran. When it comes to China, why would we be giving an official state visit to a country thats been involved in a massive cyber attack against the United States? Thats not just a visit, thats a 21 gun salute on the South Lawn of the White House.
(WALKER) And, Jake, for the question, I was one of the first ones to call for terminating the bad deal with Iran on day one. The President came after me and said I need to bone up. You know, the President who called ISIS the JV squad said I needed to bone up.
(BUSH) No, I dont think so, but we need to be strong against China. We should use offensive tactics as it relates to cyber security, send a deterrent signal to China. There should be super sanctions in what President Obama has proposed. Theres many other tools that we have without canceling a dinner. Thats not going to change anything, but we can be much stronger as it relates to that.
(BUSH) As it relates to Iran, its not a strategy to tear up an agreement. A strategy would be how do we confront Iran? And, the first thing that we need to do is to establish our commitment to Israel which has been altered by this administration.
(BUSH) And, make sure that they have the most sophisticated weapons to send a signal to Iran that we have Israels back. If we do that, its going to create a healthier deterrent effect than anything else I can think of.
(HUCKABEE) Because I think it is incredibly important. This is really about the survival of Western civilization. This is not just a little conflict with a Middle Eastern country that weve just now given over $100 billion to, the equivalent in U.S. terms is $5 trillion.
(HUCKABEE) This threatens Israel immediately, this threatens the entire Middle East, but it threatens the United States of America. And we cant treat a nuclear Iranian government as if it is just some government that would like to have power.
(HUCKABEE) This is a government for 36 years has killed Americans, they kidnapped Americans, they have maimed Americans. They have sponsored terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah, and they threaten the very essence of Western civilization.
(HUCKABEE) To give them this agreement, that the president treats like the Magna Carta, but Iranians treat it like its toilet paper, and we must, simply, make it very clear that the next president, one of us on this stage, will absolutely not honor that agreement, and will destroy it and will be tough with Iran, because otherwise, we put every person in this world in a very dangerous place. (APPLAUSE)
(HEWITT) We now have 4 million refugees, Syria is a living hell, and he turned to the Congress for the authority to back him up. You have three senators to your right that said, no. Do they bear responsibility for this refugee crisis, and what would you have done when Bashar Assad crossed the line?
(TRUMP) Somehow, he just doesnt have courage. There is something missing from our president. Had he crossed the line and really gone in with force, done something to Assad -- if he had gone in with tremendous force, you wouldnt have millions of people displaced all over the world.
(HEWITT & TRUMP) HEWITT: How much responsibility, Mr. Trump, do the senators hold? TRUMP: They had a responsibility, absolutely. I think we have three of them here... HEWITT: Senator Rubio... TRUMP: I think they had a responsibility, yes.
(RUBIO) Let me tell you -- I will tell you we have zero responsibility, because lets remember what the president said. He said the attack he would conduct would be a pinprick. Well, the United States military was not build to conduct pinprick attacks.
(RUBIO) If the United States military is going to be engaged by a commander-in-chief, it should only be engaged in an endeavor to win. And were not going to authorize use of force if youre not put in a position where they can win. And quite frankly, people dont trust this president as commander-in-chief because of that. (APPLAUSE)
(HEWITT & PAUL) Senator Paul? PAUL: I think this gets to the point of wisdom on when to intervene and when we shouldnt. Had we bombed Assad at the time, like President Obama wanted, and like Hillary Clinton wanted and many Republicans wanted, I think ISIS would be in Damascus today. I think ISIS would be in charge of Syria had we bombed Assad.
(HEWITT) Every time we have toppled a secular dictator, we have gotten chaos, the rise of radical Islam, and were more at risk. So, I think we need to think before we act, and know most interventions, if not a lot of them in the Middle East, have actually backfired on us.
(CRUZ & TAPPER) CRUZ: Hold on, a second, Jake, he asked me, as well. Id like to actually... TAPPER: That would be fair, youre right. Youre the third senator. CRUZ: ... respond. I think Im the first senator. (LAUGHTER)
(CRUZ) The No. 1 test for use of military force should be the vital national security interest of the United States. The reason why I opposed President Obama bombing Syria, is because he couldnt answer the question what do you do if chemical weapons end up in the hands of radical Islamic terrorists like al-Nusra, like Al Qaida, like ISIS?
(CRUZ) Now, I also want to respond to several folks up here who said we should trust this Iranian deal, see if the Iranians will comply. Anyone who is paying attention to what Khamenei says knows that they will not comply. There is a reason Khamenei refers to Israel as the little Satan, and America as the great Satan.
(CRUZ) n the middle of negotiating this treaty, Khamenei led the assembled masses in chanting, death to America. Im reminded of a great editorial cartoon. It shows the Ayatollah Khamenei saying, Death to all Americans, and then it shows John Kerry coming back, saying, Can we meet ya half way? (LAUGHTER)
(CRUZ) We need a commander-in-chief who will stand up and protect this country. And Ill tell you, I cant wait to stand on that debate stage with Hillary Clinton and to make abundantly clear if you vote for Hillary, you are voting for the Ayatollah Khomeini to possess a nuclear weapon and if you elect me as president, under no circumstances will a theocratic ayatollah who chants death to America ever be allowed to acquire a nuclear weapon. (CROSSTALK)
(KASICH) No one is -- no -- let me -- let me suggest to you we believe that we operate better in the world when our allies work with us. President Bush did it in the Gulf War. We work better when we are unified.
(KASICH) If they dont go with us, we slap the sanctions on anyway. If they fund these radical groups that threaten Israel and all of the West, then we should rip up the deal and put the sanctions back on. And let me make it clear -- let me make it clear... (CROSSTALK)
(KASICH) ... if we think -- if we think theyre getting close to a -- to developing a nuclear weapon and we get that information, you better believe that I would do everything in my power as the commander-in-chief to stop them having a nuclear weapon.
(CRUZ & KASICH) CRUZ: Jake, Jake... KASICH: We can have it, and we can have our allies, and we can be strong as a country, and we can project across this globe with unity, not just doing it alone. That is not what gets us where we want to get as a nation.
(CRUZ) We wont know under this agreement -- there are several facilities in Iran they designate as military facilities that are off limit all together. Beyond that, the other facilities, we give them 24 days notice before inspecting them. That is designed to allow them to hide the evidence.
(TAPPER & CRUZ) TAPPER: Thank you, Senator. CRUZ: ... by not handing over the side deals, and we ought to see the United States Congress... TAPPER: Thank you, Senator. CRUZ: ... stand up together and say, Hand over this treaty, and protect this country. TAPPER: Thank you, Senator. I want to...
(TAPPER) I want to turn back to Governor Huckabee. Governor Huckabee, last week, you held a rally for a county clerk in Kentucky who was jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, as I dont need to tell you.
(HUCKABEE) But I am here to fight for somebody who is a county clerk elected under the Kentucky constitution that 75 percent of the people of that state had voted for that said that marriage was between a man and a woman.
(HUCKABEE) The Supreme Court in a very, very divided decision decided out of thin air that they were just going to redefine marriage. Its a decision that the other justices in dissent said they didnt have and there wasnt a constitutional shred of capacity for them to do it.
(HUCKABEE) We made accommodation to the Fort Hood shooter to let him grow a beard. We made accommodations to the detainees at Gitmo -- Ive been to Gitmo, and Ive seen the accommodations that we made to the Muslim detainees who killed Americans.
(HUCKABEE) Youre telling me that you cannot make an accommodation for an elected Democrat county clerk from Rowan County, Kentucky? What else is it other than the criminalization of her faith and the exaltation of the faith of everyone else who might be a Fort Hood shooter or a detainee at Gitmo? (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER & BUSH ) TAPPER: Well, Im not telling you that, Governor. But Governor Bush is, because he -- because he disagrees. He thinks that Kim Davis swore to uphold the law. You disagree? Youre not -- you dont... BUSH: I dont think -- youre not stating my views right. TAPPER: OK. Please do.
(BUSH) And, in a big, tolerant country, we should respect the rule of law, allow people in -- in -- in this country -- Im a -- I was opposed to the decision, but we -- you cant just say, well, they -- gays cant get married now.
(CHRISTIE) She is, and so if she, based on conscience, cant sign that -- that marriage license, then there should be someone in her office to be able to do it, and if the law needs to be changed in the state of Kentucky, which is what shes advocating, it should be changed.
(BASH) Governor Kasich, Senator Cruz is so committed to stripping federal funds from Planned Parenthood that it could result in shutting down the federal government in just about two weeks. Do you agree with Senator Cruzs tactic?
(KASICH) Well, I agree that we should defund Planned Parenthood. I dont know many people in America who dont think that we should, and in my state, were trying to figure out how to get it done, because we are threatened with the federal government taking all of our Medicaid money away.
(KASICH) I think there is a way to get this done by giving governors the ability to be able to act to defund Planned Parenthood. But when (ph) it comes to closing down the federal government, you gotta be very careful about that.
(KASICH) and all were gonna do is shut the government down, and then were gonna open up -- open it up, and the American people are gonna shake their heads and say, whats the story with these Republicans?
(KASICH) So I think there is a way to get to cutting off the funding for Planned Parenthood. I was in the Congress for 18 years, balanced the budget, cut taxes, got it done. Changed welfare, went around the president to get welfare reform done.
(KASICH) There are ways to do it without having to shut the government down, but Im sympathetic to the fact that we dont want this organization to get funding, and the money ought to be reprogrammed for family planning in other organizations that dont support this tactic. But I would not be for shutting the government down...
(CRUZ) These are horrifying. On these videos, Planned Parenthood also essentially confesses to multiple felonies. It is a felony with ten years jail term to sell the body parts of unborn children for profit. Thats what these videos show Planned Parenthood doing.
(CRUZ) Absolutely we shouldnt be sending $500 million of taxpayer money to funding an ongoing criminal enterprise, and Ill tell you, the fact that Republican leadership in both houses has begun this discussion by preemptively surrendering to Barack Obama and saying, well give in because Obama threatens a veto.
(BASH & CRUZ) BASH: Thank you, senator. CRUZ: I will veto any budget that doesnt fund Planned Parenthood, and Republicans surrender. We need to stop surrendering and start standing... BASH: Thank you... CRUZ: ...for our principles. (APPLAUSE) (CROSSTALK)
(CHRISTIE) Were not -- what I can tell you is this. We didnt surrender in New Jersey, six years ago, as the brand new first ever pro-life governor of New Jersey since Roe versus Wade, I defunded Planned Parenthood.
(CHRISTIE) And Ive vetoed Planned Parenthood funding, now, eight times in New Jersey. Since the day I walked in as governor, Planned Parenthood has not been funded in New Jersey. We stood up and every one of those vetoes has been sustained.
(CHRISTIE) But heres the problem, were -- were fighting with each other up here. We agree. Lets ask Hillary Clinton. She believes in the systematic murder of children in the womb to preserve their body parts...
(BASH & CHRISTIE) KASICH: ...we shouldnt be fighting with each other. Shes the real opponent, shes the real problem. BASH: But, governor, the -- but, governor, the reality is, in just two weeks time... (APPLAUSE)
(BASH) ...we are going to be facing a question about whether or not its enough to shut down the government to make that statement, because there is still a Democrat in the White House. Do you oppose it or support it?
(CHRISTIE) Ill tell you what -- Ill tell you what Id be willing to fight for. Ill tell you what Id be willing to fight for. Why will (ph) we put tax reform on the presidents desk, so we can simplify this tax system?
(CHRISTIE) No, no, its really important, Dana. We got to talk about what we would be willing to shut down for. Why dont we put tax reform on this presidents desk, and make him veto it if thats what he wants to do? Why havent we repealed and replaced Obamacare? Make him veto if thats what he wants to do.
(FIORINA) You have not heard a plan about Iran from any politician up here, here is my plan. On day one in the Oval Office, I will make two phone calls, the first to my good friend to Bibi Netanyahu to reassure him we will stand with the state of Israel.
(FIORINA) The second, to the supreme leader, to tell him that unless and until he opens every military and every nuclear facility to real anytime, anywhere inspections by our people, not his, we, the United States of America, will make it as difficult as possible and move money around the global financial system.
(FIORINA) We can do that, we dont need anyones cooperation to do it. And every ally and every adversary we have in this world will know that the United States in America is back in the leadership business, which is how we must stand with our allies.
(FIORINA) As regards Planned Parenthood, anyone who has watched this videotape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.
(TAPPER) Governor Bush, you recently said while discussing Planned Parenthood, quote, youre not sure we need a half billion for womens health issues. Now youve since said that you misspoke, you didnt mean to say womens health issues.
(TAPPER) But Donald Trump said that quote, that comment, which Hillary Clinton did seize upon immediately, will haunt you the same way Mitt Romneys 47 percent video haunted him. Tell Donald Trump why hes wrong.
(BUSH) Well, hes wrong on a lot of things, but on this hes wrong because Im the most pro-life governor on this stage. I got to act on my core beliefs. Its part of who I am. Life is a gift from God. And from beginning end we need to respect it and err on the side of life.
(BUSH) And so I defunded Planned Parenthood. We created a climate where parental notification took place. We were the only state to fund crisis pregnancy centers with state moneys. We were totally focused on this. And I would bring that kind of philosophy to Washington, D.C.
(BUSH) So here is a solution to this. Title X of the HHS funding, there is something that was the Reagan Rule. It was passed in 1988. And in that rule it was defined, and the courts approved this, that a Planned Parenthood, you couldnt separate the money between the actual abortion procedures, and there are 330,000 abortions that take place in this clinic, and their promotion of it.
(TRUMP) I think it will haunt him. I think its a terrible. I think its going to haunt him absolutely. He came back later and he said he misspoke. There was no question because I heard when he said the statement. I was watching and he said the statement.
(TRUMP) One thing we will say and I would like to get back to the Iran situation. Were talking about Iran. The agreement was terrible. It was incompetent. Ive never seen anything like it. One of the worst contracts of any kind Ive ever seen.
(TRUMP) And nobody ever mentions North Korea where you have this maniac sitting there and he actually has nuclear weapons and somebody better start thinking about North Korea and perhaps a couple of other places. But certainly North Korea.
(TRUMP) And Ted and I have spoken. Weve -- a lot of us have spoken. Were talking about Iran. They are bad actors, bad things are going to happen. But in the meantime, you have somebody right now in North Korea who has got nuclear weapons and who is saying almost every other week, Im ready to use them. And we dont even mention it.
(BUSH) There are 13,000 community-based organizations that provide health services to women, 13,000 in this country. I dont believe that Planned Parenthood should get a penny from the federal government. Those organizations should get funding, just as I increased funding when I was governor of the state.
(BUSH) Thats the way you do this is you improve the condition for people. And, Donald, when I was governor, we also increased the opportunities for women. Womens income grew three times faster than the national average when I was governor.
(BUSH & TRUMP) BUSH: We improved -- we improved -- TRUMP: I know, but why did you say it? I heard it myself. Why did you say it? BUSH: -- we increased child support -- we increased child support with a broken system by 90 percent. TRUMP: You said youre going to cut funding for womens health. You said it. BUSH: I have a proven record. I have a proven record. TRUMP: You said it.
(WALKER) Jake, just one more moment. This is -- theres something bigger to this. Now, I -- like so many other governors here, I defunded Planned Parenthood four-and-a-half years ago, in a Blue State. But its bigger than that. We did that in a Blue State, we took the money and put it into womens health, so we did exactly what were talking about here.
(WALKER) But I think the bigger issue here is we should be able to do this nationally, and this is precisely why so many Republicans are upset with Washington. They see the House and they see the Senate and they say why cant we pass this. Why cant we defund Planned -- put it in a spending bill.
(TAPPER) Were going to -- were going to get to many of these issues. This -- were still in the first block, believe it or not. Were going to get to many of these issues, but before we end this block, Ms. Fiorina, I do want to ask you about this.
(TAPPER) In an interview last week in Rolling Stone magazine, Donald Trump said the following about you. Quote, Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president? Mr. Trump later said he was talking about your persona, not your appearance. Please feel free to respond what you think about his persona. (LAUGHTER)
(FIORINA) You know, its interesting to me, Mr. Trump said that he heard Mr. Bush very clearly and what Mr. Bush said. I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) All right. On that note, in less than two minutes -- were going to take a very quick break. In less than two minutes, the most contentious issue on the campaign trail. And the candidates on the stage are split over how to handle it. Thats coming up next. Please give some applause to the candidates. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) Mr. Trump, you have called for deporting every undocumented immigrant, Governor Christie has said, quote, There are not enough law enforcement officers -- local, county, state and federal combined -- to forcibly deport 11 to 12 million people. Tell Governor Christie how much your plan will cost, and how you will get it done.
(TRUMP) We have a country based on laws. I will make sure that those laws are adhered to. These are illegal immigrants. I dont think youd even be asking this question if I didnt run because when I ran, and I brought this up, my opening remarks at Trump Tower, I took heat like nobody has taken heat in a long time. And, then they found out with the killing of Katie, from San Francisco, and so many other crimes, they found out that I was right.
(TRUMP) And, most people, many people, apologized to me. I dont think youd even be talking about illegal immigration if it werent for me. So, we have a country of laws, theyre going to go out, and theyll come back if they deserve to come back. If theyve had a bad record, if theyve been arrested, if theyve been in jail, theyre never coming back.
(TRUMP) Were going to have a country again. Right now, we dont have a country, we dont have a border, and were going to do something about it, and it can be done with proper management, and it can be done with heart.
(TAPPER) Governor Christie, you and I have talked about this in an interview. You say that his big wall, his plan to deport 11 to 12 million undocumented immigrants, it sounds great, but its never going to happen. Tell him why youre skeptical of his plans?
(CHRISTIE) First of, Jake, I dont yield to anybody on how to enforce the law. Im the only person on this stage who spent seven years as a United States Attorney after September 11th, and I know how to do this.
(CHRISTIE) The fact is though that for 15,000 people a day to be deported every day for two years is an undertaking that almost none of us could accomplish given the current levels of funding, and the current number of law enforcement officers.
(CHRISTIE) We need to use electronics, we need to use drones, we need to use FBI, DEA, and ATF, and yes, we need to take the fingerprint of every person who comes into this country on a visa, and when they overstay their visa, we need to tap them on the shoulder, and say, You have overstayed your welcome, youre taking advantage of the American people. Its time for you to go. If we had that kind of system in place, we wouldnt have the 11 million people we have now.
(TAPPER & TRUMP) TAPPER: Thank you, Governor Christie... TRUMP: ...By the way, I agree with -- with what Chris is saying, but, I will say this. Illegal immigration is costing us more than $200 billion dollars a year just to maintain what we have.
(TAPPER) I want to bring in Dr. Carson because he too has been skeptical of your plan to immediately deport 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants. He said, quote, People who say that have no idea what this entails. Why do you say that, Dr. Carson?
(CARSON) Well, first of all, I recognize that we have an incredible illegal immigration problem. I was down in Arizona a few weeks ago at the border. I mean, the fences that were there were not manned, and those are the kind of fences when I was a kid that would barely slow us down. So, I dont see any purpose in having that.
(CARSON) Now, what we need to do is look at something that actually works. Yuma County, Arizona. They stop 97 percent of the illegal immigrants through there. They put in a double fence with a road so that there was quick access by the enforcement people.
(CARSON) If we dont seal the border, the rest of this stuff clearly doesnt matter. Its kind of ridiculous all the other things we talk about. We have the ability to do it, we dont have the will to do it.
(CARSON) There was one area where they had cut a hole in the fence, and to repair it, they put a few strands of barb wire across. Well, the photographers who were there with us, they wanted to photograph us from the side of the Mexicans, and they went through there, and they were not physically fit people, and they took their cameras and things with them, and shot us from the other side.
(CARSON) Well, I have also said, if anybody knows how to do that, that I would be willing to listen. And, if they can, you know, specify exactly how thats going to be done, and what the cost, and it sounds reasonable, then I think its worth discussing...
(BASH) Governor Bush, Mr. Trump has suggested that your views on immigration are influenced by your Mexican born wife. He said that, quote, If my wife were from Mexico, I think I would have a soft spot for people from Mexico. Did Mr. Trump go to far in invoking your wife?
(BUSH) Were at a crossroads right now. Are we going to take the Reagan approach, the hopeful optimistic approach, the approach that says that, you come to our country legally, you pursue your dreams with a vengeance, you create opportunities for all of us?
(BUSH) And it does require securing the border. No one disagrees with that. But to build a wall, and to deport people -- half a million a month -- would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, Donald. Hundreds of billions of dollars. It would destroy community life, it would tear families apart.
(BASH) OK, on that note, you have criticized Governor Bush for speaking Spanish on the campaign trail. You said, quote, He should really set an example by speaking English in the United States. Whats wrong with speaking Spanish?
(TRUMP) We have a country, where, to assimilate, you have to speak English. And I think that where he was, and the way it came out didnt sound right to me. We have to have assimilation -- to have a country, we have to have assimilation.
(BUSH) But the simple fact is, if a high school kid asks me a question in Spanish, a school -- by the way, a voucher program that was created under my watch, the largest voucher program in the country, where kids can go to a Christian school, and they ask me a question in Spanish, Im going to show respect and answer that question in Spanish.
(RUBIO) I want to tell you a story about someone that didnt speak English that well. It was my grandfather; he came to this country in the 1960s, as a -- escaping Cuba. And he lived with us, growing up.
(RUBIO) My grandfather instilled in me the belief that I was blessed to live in the one society in all of human history where even I, the son of a bartender and a maid, could aspire to have anything, and be anything that I was willing to work hard to achieve.
(RUBIO) And so, I do give interviews in Spanish, and heres why -- because I believe that free enterprise and limited government is the best way to help people who are trying to achieve upward mobility.
(CARSON) Well, what I said, after we seal the borders, after we turn off the spigot that dispenses all the goodies so we dont have people coming in here, including employment, that people who had a pristine record, we should consider allowing them to become guest workers, primarily in the agricultural sphere, because thats the place where Americans dont seem to want to work.
(CRUZ) Well, Jake, you know, Im -- Im very glad that Donald Trumps being in this race has forced the mainstream media finally to talk about illegal immigration. I think thats very important. I like and respect Ben Carson. Ill let him talk about his own plans.
(CRUZ) But I will say this: The natural next question that primary voters are asking, after we focus on illegal immigration is, okay, what are the records of the various candidates? And this is an issue on which there are stark differences.
(CRUZ) A majority of the men and women on this stage have previously and publicly embraced amnesty. I am the only candidate on this stage who has never supported amnesty and, in fact, who helped lead the fight to stop a massive amnesty plan.
(CRUZ) You know, folks here have talked about, how do you secure the borders? Well, Ive been leading the fight in the Senate to triple the Border Patrol, to put in place fencings and walls, to put in place a strong biometric exit/entry system...
(TAPPER & CARSON) TAPPER: Well come back to you -- well come back to you in one second, sir. But Senator Rubio, Im not sure exactly whose plan hes -- hes saying is -- constitutes amnesty, but I know he has said it about your plan in the past, so I want to give you a chance to respond, then, Dr. Carson, well come to you. CARSON: OK.
(RUBIO) Well, let me say that legal immigration is not an issue I read about in the newspaper. Immigration, illegal immigration, all the good aspects of immigration and all the negative ones as well, I live with. My familys immigrants. My neighbors are all immigrants. My in-laws are all immigrants.
(RUBIO) So Ive seen every aspect of it, and I can tell you America doesnt have one immigration problem, it has three. First, despite the fact that we are the most generous country in the history of the world in allowing people to come here legally, we have people still coming illegally.
(RUBIO) Heres the way forward: First, we must -- we must secure our border, the physical border, with -- with a wall, absolutely. But we also need to have an entry/exit tracking system. 40 percent of the people who come here illegally come legally, and then they overstay the visa. We also need a mandatory e-verify system.
(RUBIO) After weve done that, step two would be to modernize our legal immigration system so you come to America on the basis of what you can contribute economically, not whether or not simply you have a relative living here. And after weve done those two things, I believe the American people...
(TAPPER & RUBIO) TAPPER: Thank you, Senator. RUBIO: ... will be very reasonable and responsible about what you do with someone whos been here and isnt a criminal. If youre a criminal, obviously, you will not be able to stay.
(TAPPER) Thank you, Senator. Senator -- Dr. Carson... (APPLAUSE) ... I want to give you 30 seconds. Id like you to answer the question. Senator Cruz describes plans such as yours as amnesty. Why is your plan not amnesty?
(CARSON) And the second reason is because the individuals who register as guest workers, they dont get to vote, they are not American citizens, and they dont get the rights and privileges of American citizens. So thats key.
(TAPPER) Mr. Trump, you say that babies born in the United States to undocumented immigrants should not any longer get automatic American citizenship. Ms. Fiorina says that you are pandering on this issue and acting like the politicians that you rail against. Whats your message to Ms. Fiorina on birthright citizenship?
(TRUMP) Well, first of all, the -- the 14th Amendment says very, very clearly to a lot of great legal scholars -- not television scholars, but legal scholars -- that it is wrong. It can be corrected with an act of Congress, probably doesnt even need that.
(TRUMP) And by the way, Mexico and almost every other country anywhere in the world doesnt have that. Were the only ones dumb enough, stupid enough to have it. And people -- and by the way, this is not just with respect to Mexico.
(TRUMP) The 14th Amendment, it reads properly, you can go and -- its probably going to be have to be check -- go through a process of court, probably ends up at the Supreme Court, but there are a lot of great legal scholars that say that is not correct.
(FIORINA) First let me say, We have just spent a good bit of time discussing, as Republicans, how to solve this problem. I would ask your audience at home to ask a very basic question. Why have Democrats not solved this problem?
(FIORINA) President Obama campaigned in 2007 and 2008 on solving the immigration problem. He entered Washington with majorities in the House and the Senate. He could have chosen to do anything to solve this pro -- this problem. Instead, he chose to do nothing. Why? because the Democrats dont want this issue solved.
(FIORINA) ...the truth is, you cant just wave your hands and say the 14th Amendment is gonna go away. It will take an extremely arduous vote in Congress, followed by two-thirds of the states, and if that doesnt work to amend the Constitution, then it is a long, arduous process in court.
(FIORINA) And meanwhile, what will continue to go on is what has gone on for 25 years. With all due respect, Mr. Trump, weve been talking about illegal immigration for 25 years. San Francisco has been a sanctuary city since 1989. There are 300 of them.
(FIORINA) And meanwhile, what has happened? Nothing. The border remains insecure. The legal immigration system remains broken. Look, we know what it takes to secure a border. Weve heard a lot of great ideas here. Money, manpower, technology...
(TAPPER & FIORINA) TAPPER : Thank you, Ms. Fiorina. FIORINA: ...mostly, apparently, leadership... TAPPER: Thank you. FIORINA: ...the kind of leadership that understands how to get results. TAPPER: Thank you, Ms. Fiorina. Mr. Trump, I want to give you the chance to respond...
(TRUMP) But I believe that a reading of the 14th Amendment allows you to have an interpretation where this is not legal and where it cant be done. Ive seen both sides, but some of the greatest scholars agree with me, without having to go through Congress.
(PAUL) The case that was decided around 1900 was, people had a green card, were here legally, and they said that their children were citizens. Theres never been a direct Supreme Court case on people who were here illegally, whether or not their kids are citizens.
(PAUL) So it hasnt really been completely adjudicated. The 14th Amendment says that those who are here and under the jurisdiction. The original author of the -- of the 14th Amendment said on the Senate floor that this was applying to slaves, and did not specifically apply to others.
(FIORINA) I led Hewlett Packard through a very difficult time, the worst technology recession in 25 years. The NASDAQ stock index fell 80 percent. It took 15 years for the stock index to recover. We had very strong competitors who literally went out of business and lost all of their jobs in the process.
(FIORINA) Yes, we had to make tough choices, and in doing so, we saved 80,000 jobs, went on to grow to 160,000 jobs. And now Hewlett Packard is almost 300,000 jobs. We went from lagging behind to leading in every product category and every market segment.
(FIORINA) -- out a full-page ad in the New York Times to say he was wrong, I was right. I was a terrific CEO, the board was dysfunctional. And he thinks I will make a magnificent president of the United States. (APPLAUSE)
(TRUMP) -- let me -- well, let me just explain. The head of the Yale Business School, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, wrote a paper recently, one of the worst tenures for a CEO that he has ever seen, ranked one of the top 20 in the history of business.
(TRUMP) The company is a disaster and continues to be a disaster. They still havent recovered. In fact, today, on the front page of the Wall Street Journal, they fired another 25 or 30,000 people saying we still havent recovered from the catastrophe.
(TRUMP) Now one other company before that was Lucent. Carly was at Lucent before that. And Lucent turned out to be a catastrophe also. So I only say this. She cant run any of my companies. That I can tell you.
(FIORINA) You know, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld is a well-known Clintonite and honestly had it out for me from the moment that I arrived at Hewlett Packard. But honestly, Mr. Trump, I find it quite rich that you would talk about this.
(FIORINA) You know, there are a lot of us Americans who believe that we are going to have trouble someday paying back the interest on our debt because politicians have run up mountains of debt using other peoples money.
(TRUMP & FIORINA) TRUMP: Ill tell you why; its very simple. FIORINA: -- of this nation any differently than you managed the finances -- TRUMP: Ill tell you. I was running -- FIORINA: -- of your casinos? TRUMP: -- Carly, Carly --
(TAPPER & TRUMP) TAPPER: Mr. Trump. TRUMP: -- Ive made over $10 billion. I had a casino company -- Caesars just filed for bankruptcy. Chris will tell you -- its not Chris fault either -- but almost everybody in Atlantic City is either in trouble or filed for -- maybe Ill blame Chris.
(TRUMP) Many of the great business people that you know -- and Carl Icon (ph) is going to work with me on making great deals for this country. But whether its Carl or so many others that we read about all the time --
(CHRISTIE) Jake listen. While Im as entertained as anyone by this personal back-and-forth about the history of Donald and Carlys career, for the 55-year-old construction worker out in that audience tonight who doesnt have a job, who cant fund his childs education, Ive got to tell you the truth. They could care less about your careers, they care about theirs. (APPLAUSE)
(CHRISTIE) The fact is that we dont want to hear about your careers, back and forth and volleying back and forth about who did well and who did poorly. Youre both successful people. Congratulations. You know whos not successful?
(CHRISTIE) The middle class in this country whos getting plowed over by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Lets start talking about those issues tonight and stop this childish back-and-forth between the two of you. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER & KASICH) TAPPER: Ms. Fiorina, I want to give you KASICH: Jake -- TAPPER: Governor Kasich, Im coming to you next, but Ms. Fiorinas name was mentioned, and I have to give her the opportunity to respond if she wants it.
(FIORINA) Well, I thought we had been hearing quite a bit about Govenor Christies record as governor, actually. I think track records are very important. I completely agree that whats at stake here is the future of this nation, and the future of every American.
(FIORINA) But I do think that a track record of leadership is vital because in the end this election is about leadership. And lets talk about what leadership is. Its not about braggadocio, it is about challenging the status quo, solving problems, producing results.
(KASICH & TAPPER) KASICH: OK, Jake. TAPPER: Donald Trump says that the hedge fund guys are getting away with murder by paying a lower tax rate. He wants to raise the taxes of hedge fund managers, as does Governor Bush. Do you agree?
(KASICH) But lets just stop for a second. Theres one person on this stage that does have a record. Im the only person on the stage and one of the few people in this country that led the effort as the chief architect of the last time we balanced the federal budget.
(KASICH) We also cut taxes. And when I left Washington in 2000, we had a $5 trillion surplus, and the economy was booming. I had spent 10 years of my life to get us to that point, went out in the private sector, was a great experience, and went into Ohio and took an $8 billion hole and turned it into a $2 billion surplus.
(KASICH) It took a lot to get us to a balanced budget. It was legitimate. It was real. And we negotiated it. A lot of what were talking about here tonight as we take this position and that position, you know what? At the end of the day, America has got to work.
(KASICH) Weve got to figure out how we come together to deal with this -- with our fiscal problems because when we deal with that, we create a stronger economy for everybody. People have a chance to rise.
(KASICH & TAPPER) KASICH: So, you know, when we think about how we make a choice, its the person that lands that plane. Its not somebody that talks about it. Its about the person who has done it. And Ive done it in... TAPPER: Thank you, Governor. TAPPER: Thank you, Governor Kasich.
(TAPPER) You have said that you are bothered by the fact that hedge fund managers pay such a low tax rate and make 2,500 times what people who work for them make. Do you agree with what Donald Trump and Governor Bush have proposed, raising their tax rates?
(HUCKABEE) I have a different idea. I think we ought to get rid of all the taxes on people who produce. Why should we penalize productivity? And its why Im an unabashed supporter of the fair tax, which would be a tax on our consumption, rather than a tax on our productivity.
(HUCKABEE) In other words, youre not going to tax anybody for what they earn, whether its worker whose working by the hour or whether its a hedge fund manager. If they can produce something and bring capital and labor to create jobs, we need some jobs. And I think the fair tax makes more sense.
(HUCKABEE) Weve all done great things or we wouldnt be on this stage. But it occurs to me as were sitting here in the Reagan Library that most of us would like to pay tribute to a guy who, when he got elected, didnt get elected telling everybody how great he was.
(HUCKABEE) He got elected telling everybody how great the American people were. And he empowered them to live their dreams, which is what Id love to see us do by no longer penalizing the people who are out there working because they are taking a gut punch right now. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) Thank you, Governor. Dr. Carson, you support scrapping the entire tax code and replacing it with a flat tax based on the principal on tithing from the Bible. If you make $10 billion, you pay $1 billion in taxes, if you make $10, you pay $1 in taxes.
(CARSON) Its all about America. You know, the people who say the guy who paid a billion dollars because he had 10, he has still got $9 billion left, thats not fair, we need to take more of his money. Thats called socialism. That doesnt work so well.
(CARSON) What made America into a great nation was the fact that we said, that guy just put in $1 billion, lets create an environment thats even more conducive to his success so that next year he can put in $2 billion.
(CARSON) The Fair Tax. Looking at both of them, and evaluating them both, and Im talking to the American people because one of the things we must recognize is that this country is of, for, and by the people.
(TRUMP) Well, I think the thing about the flat tax, I know it very well. What I dont like is that if you make $200 million a year, you pay ten percent, youre paying very little relatively to somebody thats making $50,000 a year, and has to hire H&R Block to do the -- because its so complicated.
(TRUMP) One thing Ill say to Ben is that weve had a graduated tax system for many years, so its not a socialistic thing. What Id like to do, and Ill be putting in the plan in about two weeks, and I think people are going to like it, its a major reduction in taxes.
(PAUL) Our companies, and our jobs are being chased overseas by a 70,000 page tax code, so, thats why Ive chosen to get rid of the whole thing, and have one single rate, 14 and a-half percent for everybody, business, and for corporate income, and personal income.
(PAUL) But, we also get rid of the payroll tax, so the working class would get a tax break as well. So, I think a flat tax, eliminating the tax code, getting rid of all the loopholes, is the way to go, and its the way we get America going again.
(WALKER) So, the best way to help people see their wages go up is to get them the education, the skill they need, to take on careers that pay more than minimum wage. And, its why we talk about it, its all about jobs.
(WALKER) Thats the way you help people create jobs. Its part of our large plan to reform the tax code, to cut taxes, to put in place an education system that gives people the skills and education that they need.
(TAPPER & WALKER) WALKER: Im the only one on this stage thats actually got a plan, introduced an actual plan to repeal Obamacare on day one. Ill send a bill up to Congress, and to make sure enact it... TAPPER: ...Thank you, Governor...
(TAPPER & WALKER) WALKER: ...Im going to sign an order that makes the Congress live by the same rules as everybody else. TAPPER: ...Thank you, Governor... WALKER: ...That will ensure they repeal Obamacare...
(CARSON) Well, first of all, let me say what I actually said about raising the minimum wage. I was asked should it be raised, I said, probably, or possibly. But, what I added, which I think is the most important thing,
(CARSON) so, I said we need to get both sides of this issue to sit down, and talk about it. Negotiate a reasonable minimum wage, and index that so that we never have to have this conversation again in the history of America.
(CARSON & TAPPER) CARSON: I think we also have to have two minimum wages, a starter, and a sustaining because how are young people ever going to get a job if you have such a high minimum wage that it makes it impractical to hire them... TAPPER: Thank you, Dr. Carson...
(WALKER) ...Jake, Jake, Jake, I just want to address that issue because you said I didnt answer, and I did. I said, to me, I think the real focus shouldnt be -- you know, Hillary Clinton talks about the minimum wage. Thats her answer to grow the economy. The answer is to give people the skills and the education so they make far more than minimum wage.
(WALKER) I dont want to argue about how low things are going to be, I want to talk about how do we lift everyone up in America. Thats what Reagan talked about. It wasnt how bad things were, it was how to make it better for everyone. Thats what weve done in Wisconsin, thats exactly what wed do as...
(HEWITT) Id like to talk about winning because I think all of you are more qualified than former Secretary of State Clinton, and as were the people in the first debate, but there are different styles, and Carly Fiorina, Governor Kasich, youre conveniently located next to each other, and you have different styles.
(KASICH) Well, look, people still have to get to know me, so I want to spend my time talking about my experience reforming welfare, balancing budgets, cutting taxes, providing economic growth when I was in Washington, turning Ohio around. Eight billion in the hole, $2 billion surplus, up over 300,000 jobs, big tax cuts, strengthening our credit.
(KASICH) All those things matter but, you know, as a young man in my first election in 1978, I defeated an incumbent Democrat. I defeated an incumbent Democrat in 1982; running on the Reagan program, I was the only Republican in America to defeat an incumbent Democrat that year.
(KASICH) And then, when I won for election of governor, I was the first Republican to defeat an incumbent in 36 years, and the first person to have never run statewide out of politics for 10 years to beat an incumbent. That hadnt happened for 96 years.
(KASICH & HEWITT) KASICH: So, well get to the point where well talk about Hillary Clinton, or whoever the nominee is, record. But right now, I want to give people sense of hope, sense of purpose, a sense of unity, sense that we can do it. So... HEWITT: Governor.
(KASICH) You know, at the end of the day, Im going to continue to talk about my record, because there is, did you ever notice when people run for office, they run for president, they make a lot of promises, they dont keep them.
(KASICH & HEWITT) HEWITT: Thank you, Governor. KASICH: I dont intend to do that, and I going to be out there pushing it out -- dont worry about me and Hillary. That will all work out, and Im from Ohio. She will not beat me there, I can promise you that. (APPLAUSE)
(FIORINA & HEWITT) KASICH: Carly Fiorina, your style? FIORINA: You see, Governor Christie, people spend time talking about their track records, and Mr. Trump and I have every right to do the same. And Mrs. Clinton has to defend her track record.
(FIORINA) Like Mrs. Clinton, I, too, have travels hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe. But unlike Mrs. Clinton, I know flying is an activity, not an accomplishment. Mrs. Clinton -- if you want to stump a Democrat, ask them to name a accomplishment of Mrs. Clintons.
(CHRISTIE) The Obama White House seems to have in interest, the Justice Department seems to have no interest. I think its time to put a former federal prosecutor on the same stage as Hillary Clinton. (APPLAUSE)
(CHRISTIE) And I will prosecute her during those debates on that stage for the record were talking about here. The fact she had a private email server in her basement, using national security secrets running through it, could have been hacked by the Russians, the Chinese, or two 18-year-olds on a toot (ph) wanting to have some fun.
(TAPPER) Mr. Trump, Senator Rubio said it was, quote, very concerning to him that in a recent interview you didnt seem to know the details about some of the enemies the U.S. faces. Rubio said, if you dont know the answers to those questions, you will not be able to serve as commander-in-chief. Please respond to Senator Rubio.
(TRUMP) Well, I heard Hugh Hewitt, a nice man, he apologized because he actually said that we had a misunderstanding. And he said today that Donald Trump is maybe the best interview there is anywhere that he has ever done.
(TRUMP) OK. So I will say this, though, Hugh was giving me name after name, Arab name, Arab name, and there are few people anywhere, anywhere that would have known those names. I think he was reading them off a sheet.
(RUBIO) A gangster in Moscow is not just threatening Europe, hes threatening to destroy and divide NATO. You have radical jihadists in dozens of countries across multiple continents. And they even recruit Americans using social media to try to attack us here at home.
(RUBIO) And now we have got this horrible deal with Iran where a radical Shia cleric with an apocalyptic vision of the future is also guaranteed to one day possess nuclear weapons and also a long-range rocket that can hit the United States.
(RUBIO) These are extraordinarily dangerous times that we live in. And the next president of the United States better be someone that understands these issues and has good judgment about them because the number one issue that a president will ever confront, and the most important obligation that the federal government has, is to keep this nation safe.
(RUBIO) And today we are not doing that. We are eviscerating our military. And we have a president that is more respectful to the ayatollah in Iran than he is to the prime minister of Israel. (APPLAUSE)
(RUBIO) Not six months from now, not a year from now, on the first day in office, our president could very well confront a national security crisis. You cant predict it. Sometimes you cannot control it.
(RUBIO) But the one thing that the federal government must do, the one thing that only the federal government can do is keep us safe. And a president better be up-to-date on those issues on his first day in office, on her first day in office. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER & TRUMP) TAPPER: Mr. Trump? TRUMP: Well, you have to understand, I am not sitting in the United States Senate with, by the way, the worst voting record there is today. Number one. I am not sitting in the United States Senate. Im a businessman doing business transactions.
(RUBIO & TRUMP) RUBIO: Trust (ph) me, I get that. OK. TRUMP: I am doing business transactions. I will know more about this -- and, as you said, that was very acceptable, and when you listen to that whole interview, its a great interview, you said it, I didnt. Well, now I did. But... (CROSSTALK)
(TRUMP & TAPPER) TRUMP: ...I will know more about the problems of this world by the time I sit, and you look at whats going in this world right now by people that supposedly know, this world is a mess. TAPPER: Senator Rubio, he did invoke your absentee record in the Senate.
(RUBIO) And youre right, I have missed some votes, and Ill tell you why, Mr. Trump. Because in my years in the Senate, Ive figured out very quickly that the political establishment in Washington, D.C. in both political parties is completely out of touch with the lives of our people.
(RUBIO) You have millions of people in this country living paycheck to paycheck, and nothing is being done about it. We are about to leave our children with $18 trillion in -- in -- in debt, and theyre about to raise the debt limit again.
(RUBIO) We have a world that grows increasingly dangerous, and we are eviscerating our military spending and signing deals with Iran. And these -- if this thing continues, we are going to be the first Americans to leave our children worse off than ourselves.
(RUBIO) Thats why Im missing votes. Because I am leaving the Senate, Im not running for re-election, and Im running for president because I know this: unless we have the right president, we cannot make America fulfill its potential, but with the right person in office, the 21st century can be the greatest era that our nation has ever known.
(HEWITT) Thank you, Jake. Ive done a lot of great interviews with all of you, but, Governor Bush, I talked to you in February about the biggest elephant in a room full of elephants, which is your last name. And you said you would not be burdened either by your brother or your fathers legacy in the Middle East.
(HEWITT & BUSH) HEWITT: And then, a week later, you rolled out your list of foreign policy advisers, and it was a lot of the band getting back together again. So on behalf of the military that is watching... BUSH: Yeah.
(BUSH) So just by definition, if youre -- and many of the people here that are seeking advice from the foreign policy experts in the Republican side, they -- they served in my dads administration, my brothers administration. Of course thats the case.
(BUSH) But Im my own man. Im going to create a strategy that is based on the simple fact that the United States needs to lead the world. The first thing that we need to do is to stop the craziness of the sequester.
(BUSH) Rebuild our military so that our -- so that we dont deploy people over and over again without the necessary equipment to keep them safe, to send a signal to the world that were serious. If were going to lead the world, then we need to have the strongest military possible.
(BUSH) We need to rebuild our counterintelligence and intelligence capabilities. We need to focus on the fact that the next president is going to start in 2017, not in 1990 -- you know, 30 years ago, or when my brother started.
(BUSH) The world is dramatically different. And I believe that we need to restore Americas presence and leadership in the world. Name a country where our relationship is better today than it was the -- the day that Barack Obama got elected president.
(BUSH) Under Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, we have seen a weakness that now creates huge problems for the next president of the United States. So Ill have a team that will be -- that will be following the doctrine I set up, and it will be peace through strength.
(BUSH & TRUMP) BUSH: Were sitting here in this library, which is a wonderful place to talk about this, because thats exactly what happened in the 1980s, and the world was a lot safer because of... TRUMP: (inaudible)
(HEWITT) I want to ask you a question, though, you promised us great leaders. And I believe that. But Jeb Bush has laid out 20 different people that have experience around the world. There are 190 countries, you cant run the world by yourself. When are we going to get some names on your military and your foreign policy advisers?
(TRUMP) I am the only person on this dais -- the only person -- that fought very, very hard against us (ph), and I wasnt a sitting politician going into Iraq, because I said going into Iraq -- that was in 2003, you can check it out, check out -- Ill give you 25 different stories.
(TRUMP) In fact, a delegation was sent to my office to see me because I was so vocal about it. Im a very militaristic person, but you have to know when to use the military. Im the only person up here that fought against going into Iraq. (CROSSTALK)
(TRUMP) If you dont mind, Rand -- you know, you are on last -- you do have your 1 percent. I would like -- and I think its very important. I think its important, because its about judgment. Its about judgment.
(PAUL & TRUMP) TRUMP: I didnt want to go into Iraq, and I fought it, because what I said -- what I said... PAUL: May I make a response to that? TRUMP: ... was youre going to -- youre going to destabilize... PAUL: Hes referred to me. TRUMP: ... the Middle East, and thats what happened.
(PAUL & BUSH) PAUL: Hes referred to me... BUSH: So you -- the -- the first chance... PAUL: ... in his remarks. May I make a response? BUSH: Right after me, and then Ill -- Ill yield -- yield the floor. What do you guys say in the Senate when youre talking and debating? PAUL: Absolutely. Go ahead.
(BUSH & TRUMP) BUSH: So is that the judgment that you bring to the table, that Hillary Clinton... TRUMP: If you think about it... BUSH: ... is a great negotiator, that she could bring about a better deal on Iran?
(BUSH) ... you remember the -- the rumble? You remember the fire fighter with his arms around it? He sent a clear signal that the United States would be strong and fight Islamic terrorism, and he did keep us safe.
(BUSH & WALKER) BUSH: Thats -- thats my brother. WALKER:: Thats because of Barack Obama. Weve had a president who called ISIS the J.V. squad, Yemen a success story, Iran a place we can do business with. Its not because of George W. Bush; its because of Barack Obama... (APPLAUSE)
(WALKER & TRUMP) WALKER: (inaudible) on that point, though, whether its -- whether were talking about national security, foreign policy or were talking about domestic policy, the key... TRUMP: Or the collapse of the economy.
(WALKER) ... the key issue here is talking about leadership. Now, theres a lot of greater people up here, and youve heard a lot of great ideas out there. But I would ask the American people, look at whos been tested.
(PAUL) The remark was made that there hadnt been anyone else on the podium opposed to the Iraq War. Ive made my career as being an opponent of the Iraq War. I was opposed to the Syria war. I was opposed to arming people who are our enemies.
(PAUL) Iran is now stronger because Hussein is gone. Hussein was the great bulwark and counterbalance to the Iranians. So when we complain about the Iranians, you need to remember that the Iraq War made it worse.
(TAPPER & PAUL) PAUL: We have make the decision now in Syria, should we topple Assad? Many up here wanted to topple Assad, and its like -- I said no, because if you do... TAPPER: Thank you, Senator Paul... PAUL: ... ISIS will now be in charge of Syria... TAPPER: Thank you, Senator Paul... (CROSSTALK)
(BUSH) Heres the lessons of history: When we -- we pull back, voids are created. We left Iraq. We shouldve had a -- a forces agreement to stay there with a small force, and instead of that, we politically and militarily pulled back, and now we have the creation of ISIS
(BUSH) 36 days ago in this very library, I gave a speech with a comprehensive strategy how to take out ISIS, and it requires American leadership and engagement. We dont have to be the worlds policemen. But we certainly have to be the worlds leader.
(BUSH & TAPPER) BUSH: And if we do that, we can create a force that will take out ISIS both in Iraq and in Syria, which will take a lot longer time now... TAPPER: Thank you, Governor. BUSH: ... because of what President Obamas done by pulling back. TAPPER: Thank you, Governor.
(TAPPER & RUBIO) TAPPER: Senator Rubio? RUBIO: I want to go even deeper -- and I want to go even deeper in that direction, because I think the belief that somehow by retreating, America makes the world safer has been disproven every single time its ever been tried.
(RUBIO) Syrias a perfect example of it. The uprising in Syria was not started by the United States; it was started by the Syrian people. And I warned at the time -- this was three and a half years ago -- I openly and repeatedly warned that if we did not find moderate elements on the ground that we could equip and arm, that void would be filled by radical jihadists.
(RUBIO) Well, the president didnt listen, the administration didnt follow through, and thats exactly what happened. That is why ISIS grew. That is why ISIS then came over the border from Syria and back into Iraq.
(RUBIO & TAPPER) RUBIO: What is happening in that region is the direct consequence of the inability to lead and of disengagement. And the more we disengage, the more airplanes from Moscow youre going to see flying out of Damascus and out of Syria... TAPPER: Thank you, Senator. RUBIO: ... as you asked earlier today.
(CARSON & TAPPER) CARSON: Jake, Jake... TAPPER: Dr. Carson? CARSON: I havent had an opportunity to weigh in on foreign policy, and I just want to mention that when the war, when the issue occurred in 2003, I suggested to President Bush that he not go to war? OK. So I just want that on the record.
(CARSON) And, you know, a lot of people are very much against us getting involved right now with global jihadism. And they refer back to our invasion of Iraq. And they seem to think that that was what caused it.
(CARSON) What caused it was withdrawing from there and creating a vacuum which allowed this terrible situation to occur. But it is very different from what is going on today. Were talking about global jihadists who actually want to destroy us.
(CARSON) They are an existential threat to our nation. And we have to be mature enough to recognize that our children will have no future if we put our heads in the sand. We have to recognize we have two choices.
(CARSON & TAPPER) CARSON: We either allow them the continue to progress and appear to be the winners, or we use every resource available to us to destroy... TAPPER: Thank you, Dr. Carson. CARSON: ... them first.
(TAPPER) Governor Christie, we just marked the 14th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Now Dr. Carson has said that if he had been president at the time, the United States would not have gone to war in Afghanistan. What does that say to you about how Dr. Carson would respond as president if America were attacked again?
(CHRISTIE) Well, Jake, I was named U.S. attorney by President Bush on September 10th, 2001. And that next day my wife Mary Pat did what she did every day, she traveled through the World Trade Center and went to her office two blocks from the World Trade Center.
(CHRISTIE) And I had to confront what so many thousands of others in my region had to confront, the idea I might become a single parent, the idea that my life and my childrens life might be changed forever.
(CHRISTIE) We lost friends that day. We went to the funerals. And I will tell you that what those people wanted and what they deserved was for America to answer back against what had been done to them.
(CHRISTIE) And I support what President Bush did at that time, going into Afghanistan, hunting al Qaeda and its leaders, getting its sanctuary out of place, and making it as difficult around the world for them to move people and money.
(CHRISTIE) And then he went to prosecutors like us, and he said, never again. Dont prosecute these people after the crime is committed. Intervene before the crime happens. I absolutely believe that what the president did at the time was right.
(CHRISTIE) And I am proud to have been one of the people on the stage who was part of making sure that what Governor Bush said before was the truth. America was safe for those seven years and Barack Obama has taken that safety away from us. (APPLAUSE)
(CARSON & TAPPER) TAPPER: Dr. Carson? CARSON: Well, recognize that, you know, President George W. Bush is a great friend of ours, and we spent many wonderful days at the White House. I havent been there in the last seven years. I probably have to have a food-tester. (LAUGHTER)
(CARSON) But at any rate, I didnt suggest that nothing be done. What I suggested to President Bush is to be Kennedy-esque, in the sense that when the Russians got ahead of us in the space race, what we did is use the bully pulpit to galvanize everybody, business, industry, academia behind a national goal to put a man on the moon and bring him back safely.
(CARSON) I said, you can do the same kind of thing. Declare that within five to 10 years we will become petroleum independent. The moderate Arab states would have been so concerned about that, they would have turned over Osama bin Laden and anybody else you wanted on a silver platter within two weeks.
(CHRISTIE) You do not need to go through subtle diplomacy at that point. That could be handled later on. What you need is a strong American leader who will take the steps that are necessary to protect our nation.
(CARSON & TAPPER) TAPPER: Dr. Carson? CARSON: I have no argument with having a strong leader, and to be aggressive where aggression is needed. But it is not needed in every circumstance. There is a time when you can use your intellect to come up with other ways to do things. And I think thats what we have to start thinking about.
(CARSON) There is no question that a lot of these problems that we have been talking about in terms of the international situation is because we are weak. It is because our Navy is so small. It is because our Air Force is incapable of doing the same things that it did a few years ago.
(RUBIO) But radical terrorism cannot be solved by intellect. It cannot -- they require -- what they need, is they need an operating space. Thats what Afghanistan was for Al Qaida. It was a vacuum that they filled, and they created an operating space.
(RUBIO) Thats why they had to be drawn out of there. Thats why they had to be destroyed. It is the reason why ISIS has grown as well. We allowed them -- we allowed a vacuum to emerge in Syria. They used it as an operating space to grow; and today theyre not just in Iraq and Syria anymore, theyre now in Libya, conducting operations in the Sinai.
(RUBIO) Theyre now in Afghanistan, trying to supplant the Taliban as the most powerful radical jihadist group on the ground there, as well. You cannot allow radical jihadists to have an operating safe haven anywhere in the world.
(HUCKABEE) Just today -- just today, there was a new report that 50 different intelligence analysts have said that what they sent up the ladder was doctored by senior officials, so that they could give some happy talk to the situation that we face.
(HUCKABEE) I love the idea of a good intellectual capacity to deal with our enemies, but the fact is, if you dont have good intelligence that is reliable and honest, you wont have good intelligence and you cannot make good decisions.
(HUCKABEE & TAPPER) HUCKABEE: The next president is primarily elected not just to know things, but to know what to do with the things that he knows. And the most dangerous person in any room is the person who doesnt know what he doesnt know. TAPPER: Thank you, Governor.
(HUCKABEE) And the reason Barack Obama has been dangerous to this country and we better elect someone who had some executive experience, is because we cannot afford another eight years having a person in the office who doesnt know what he does not know.
(TAPPER) Governor Walker, there is a big debate now, we have been talking about ISIS here and there in this discussion, there a big debate right now about whether or not to send more U.S. troops to fight ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
(TAPPER) In the first debate earlier this evening, Senator Lindsey Graham argued that candidates are only serious about fighting ISIS if theyre willing to send 10,000 U.S. troops to Iraq, 10,000 U.S. troops as part of a coalition to Syria.
(TAPPER) Governor Walker, you say, you just told me a few days ago that the 3,000 U.S. troops there right now are enough, as long as the rules of engagement are changed. What do you know that Senator Graham doesnt know?
(WALKER) To be clear, what I said the other day was that we need to lift the political restrictions that are already in play. Barack Obamas administration has put political restrictions on the military personnel already in Iraq.
(WALKER) And we certainly shouldnt have a commander-in-chief who sends a message to our adversaries as to how far were going to go, and how far were willing to fight, so Im not putting a troop number.
(WALKER) What Im saying is lift the political restrictions. When you do that, you empower our military personnel already there to work with the Kurd and the Sunni allies, to reclaim the territory taken by ISIS.
(WALKER) I want the men and women at home to know, if Im commander-in-chief, I will only send you into harms way when our national security is at risk. And if we do, you know youll have our full support, the support of the American people, and youll have a clear path for victory. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) Thank you, Governor. Senator Paul, I want to go to you, because you have said that the boots on the ground to fight ISIS need to be Arab boots. We just learned today that despite the Obama administration spending $500 million to help create those Arab boots, there are only four or five U.S. trained fighters in Syria fighting ISIS.
(PAUL) If you want boots on the ground, and you want them to be our sons and daughters, you got 14 other choices. There will always be a Bush or Clinton for you, if you want to go back to war in Iraq.
(PAUL) Why are we always the worlds patsies that we have to go over there and fight their wars for them? They need to fight their wars, we need to defend American interests, but it is not in Americas national security interests to have another war in Iraq.
(KASICH) I called for boots on the ground many months ago in a coalition with our friends who share our interest. You know, you win a battle with the military, and when we go somewhere, we need to be mobile, and lethal. We need to take care of business, and we need to come home.
(KASICH) But, we face, also, a bigger war -- and you win the bigger war with the battle of ideas. You wonder why young people, and educated people, rich people, schooled people, have tried to join ISIS.
(KASICH) Western civilization, all of us, need to wake up to the fact that those murderers and rapists need to be called out, and in Western civilization we need to make it clear that our faith in the Jewish and Christian principals force us to live a life bigger than ourselves...
(TAPPER & KASICH) TAPPER: ...Thank you, Governor... KASICH: ...to make (ph) centers (ph) of justice so that we can battle the radicals, call them out for what they are, and make sure that all of our people feel fulfilled in living in Western civilization...
(FIORINA) We have spent probably 12 minutes talking about the past. Lets talk about the future. We need the strongest military on the face of the planet, and everyone has to know it. And, specifically,
(FIORINA) what that means is we need about 50 Army brigades, we need about 36 Marine battalions, we need somewhere between 300, and 350 naval ships, we need to upgrade every leg of the nuclear triad...
(TAPPER & FIORINA) FIORINA: ...to invest in our military technology, and we need to care for our veterans so 307,000... TAPPER: ...Dana Bash... (APPLAUSE) FIORINA: ...arent dying waiting for health care. (APPLAUSE TAPPER: Thank you. (APPLAUSE) TAPPER: Dana Bash?
(BASH) Governor Bush, lets talk about the issue thats very important to Republican voters, and thats the Supreme Court. After Chief Justice John Roberts voted to uphold Obamacare twice, Senator Cruz criticized your brother for appointing John Roberts to the Supreme Court. Looking back on it, did your brother make a mistake?
(BUSH) I will talk about what I will do as it relates to appointing Supreme Court Justices. We need to make sure that we have justices that, with a proven experienced record of respect for upholding the constitution.
(BUSH) And, Im willing to fight for those nominees to make sure that they get passed. You cant do it the politically expedient way anymore. This is the culture in Washington. You have to fight hard for these appointments. This is perhaps the most important thing that the next president will do.
(CRUZ) Number one, in 1990, in one room was David Souter, and in another room was Edith Jones, the rock ribbed (ph) conservative on the fifth circuit court of appeals. George Herbert Walker Bush appointed David Souter.
(CRUZ & TAPPER) CRUZ: And then in 2005, in one room was John Roberts, in another room was my former boss, Mike Luttig, the rock ribbed (ph) conservative on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals... TAPPER: Thank you, Senator.
(CRUZ) If, instead, the President Bush had appointed Edith Jones, and Mike Luttig, which is who I would have appointed, Obamacare would have been struck down three years ago, and the marriage laws of all 50 states would be on the books.
(BUSH) Well, first of all, he, as I said, supported John Roberts. He supported him, publicly. So, you can rewrite history, I guess, Ted, but the simple fact is that you supported him because he had all the criteria that you would have thought would have made a great justice. And, I think he is doing a good job.
(BUSH) But, the simple fact is that going forward, what we need to do is to have someone that has a long standing set of rulings that consistently makes it clear that he is a focused, exclusively on upholding the Constitution of the United States so they wont try to use the bench as a means to which legislate.
(TAPPER & BUSH) TAPPER: Thank you, Governor... BUSH: ...And, thats what we should do, and I hope Ill be working members of the United States Senate to fight hard for the passage of people that have that kind of qualification. TAPPER: Senator Cruz, 30 seconds.
(CRUZ) It is true that after George W. Bush nominated John Roberts, I supported his confirmation. That was a mistake and I regret that. I wouldnt have nominated John Roberts, and indeed, Governor Bush pointed out why.
(CRUZ) It wasnt that the President Bushes wanted to appoint a liberal to the court, its that it was the easier choice. Both David Souter and John Roberts, they didnt have a long paper trail. If you had nominated Edith Jones or Mike Ludig (ph) you would have had a bloody fight and they werent willing to spend political capital to put a strong judicial conservative on the court.
(CRUZ & TAPPER) CRUZ: I have spent my entire life, starting from clerking for Chief Justice William Rehnquist on the United States Supreme Court, one of the most principled jurists. We have an out-of-control Court, and I give you my word, if Im elected president, every single Supreme Court justice will faithfully follow the law and will not act like philosopher kings -- TAPPER: Thank you, Senator.
(CRUZ & TAPPER) CRUZ: -- imposing their liberal policies on millions of Americans -- TAPPER: Thank you, Semator. CRUZ: -- who need to be trusted to govern ourselves. TAPPER: Thank you, Senator. (APPLAUSE)
(HUCKABEE) Number one, Id ask do you think that the unborn child is a human being or is it just a blob of tissue? Id want to know the answer to that. Id want to know do you believe in the First Amendment, do you believe that religious liberty is the fundamental liberty around which all the other freedoms of this country are based?
(HUCKABEE) And Id want to know do you really believe in the Second Amendment, do you believe that we have an individual right to bear arms to protect ourselves and our family and to protect our country?
(HUCKABEE) And do you believe in the Fifth and the 14th Amendment? Do you believe that a person, before theyre deprived of life and liberty, should in fact have due process and equal protection under the law?
(HUCKABEE & TAPPER) HUCKABEE: Every one of us -- our biggest fight wasnt always with the legislature or even with the Democrats. My gosh, half the time, it was with the federal government who apparently never understood -- TAPPER: Thank you, Governor.
(TAPPER) Thank you, Governor. Were going to take a quick break. Coming up, one of the hottest questions that you have been asking us via social media. We will pose it to the candidates. Thats coming up right after this.
(TAPPER) Many people on social media wanted us to ask about marijuana legalization. Senator Paul, Governor Christie recently said, quote, if youre getting high in Colorado today, where marijuana has been legalized, enjoy it until January 2017, because I will enforce the federal laws against marijuana. Will you?
(PAUL) There is at least one prominent example on the stage of someone who says they smoked pot in high school, and yet the people going to -- to jail for this are poor people, often African-Americans and often Hispanics, and yet the rich kids who use drugs arent.
(PAUL) I personally think that this is a crime for which the only victim is the individual, and I think that America has to take a different attitude. I would like to see more rehabilitation and less incarceration. Im a fan of the drug courts which try to direct you back towards work and less time in jail.
(PAUL) But the bottom line is the states. We say we like the 10th Amendment, until we start talking about this. And I think the federal government has gone too far, I think that the war on drugs has had a racial outcome, and really has been something that has really damaged our inner cities.
(BUSH) So, 40 years ago, I smoked marijuana, and I admit it. Im sure that other people might have done it and may not want to say it in front of 25 million people. My moms not happy that I just did. (LAUGHTER)
(BUSH) Thats true. And heres the deal. Heres the deal. We have -- we have a serious epidemic of drugs that goes way beyond marijuana. What goes on in Colorado, as far as Im concerned, that should be a state decision.
(BUSH) But if you look at the problem of drugs in this -- in this society today, its a serious problem. Rand, you know this because youre campaigning in New Hampshire like all of us, and you see the epidemic of heroin, the overdoses of heroin thats taking place.
(PAUL) But let me respond. The thing is, is that in Florida, Governor Bush campaigned against medical marijuana. That means that a small child like Morgan Hintz (ph) that has seizures is day, is failing on non-traditional medications, is not allowed to use cannabis oil.
(PAUL) And if they do that in Florida, they will take the child away, they will put the parents in jail. And thats what that means if youre against allowing people use medical marijuana, youll actually put them in jail.
(BUSH & PAUL) BUSH: No, youre wrong -- youre wrong about this. PAUL: And actually, under the current circumstances, kids who had privilege like you do, dont go to jail, but the poor kids in our inner cities go to jail. I dont think thats fair. And I think we need to acknowledge it, and it is hypocritical to still want to put poor people in jail...
(CHRISTIE) You know, I enjoy the interplay. Thank you, gentlemen. Ill just say this, first off, New Jersey is the first state in the nation that now says if you are non-violent, non-dealing drug user, that you dont go to jail for your first offense. You go to mandatory treatment.
(CHRISTIE) You see, Jake, Im pro-life. And I think you need to be pro-life for more than just the time in the womb. It gets tougher when they get out of the womb. And when theyre the 16-year-old drug addict in the Florida county lockup, that life is just as precious as the life in the womb.
(CHRISTIE) And if Senator Paul thinks that the only victim is the person, look at the decrease in productivity, look at the way people get used and move on to other drugs when they use marijuana as a gateway drug, it is not them that are the only victims.
(CHRISTIE) Their families are the victims too, their children are the victims too, and their employers are the victims also. Thats why Ill enforce the federal law, while you can still put an emphasis on rehabilitation, which weve done in New Jersey.
(PAUL) I would let Colorado do what the Tenth Amendment says. This power -- we were never intended to have crime dealing at the federal level. Crime was supposed to be left to the states. Colorado has made their decision.
(PAUL & CHRISTIE) PAUL: And I dont want the federal government interfering and putting moms in jail, who are trying to get medicine for their kid... CHRISTIE: And Senator Paul knows that thats simply not the truth.
(CHRISTIE) In New Jersey, we have medical marijuana laws, which I supported and implemented. This is not medical marijuana. Theres goes as much -- a further step beyond. This is recreational use of marijuana.
(CHRISTIE) This is much different. And so, while he would like to use a sympathetic story to back up his point, it doesnt work. Im not against medical marijuana. We do it in New Jersey. But Im against the recreational use against marijuana.
(PAUL) Here is the thing, he doesnt want to make it about medical marijuana, but what if New Jerseys medical marijuana contradicts the federal law? Hes saying hell send the federal government in, and he will enforce the federal law.
(FIORINA) We do -- sorry, Barbara. We do need -- we do need criminal justice reform. We have the highest incarceration rates in the world. Two-thirds of the people in our prisons are there for non-violent offenses, mostly drug related. Its clearly not working.
(HEWITT) Last week, you said the next step in gun issues is to make sure theyre not in the hands of mentally ill. In this state, theres a controversial law that allows guns to be taken away from people without a hearing.
(BUSH) This is a complicated place. But I do think the natural impulse on the left -- Hillary Clinton, immediately after one of these horrific violent acts took place, immediately said we need to have federal gun laws. President Obama almost reflexively always says the same thing.
(BUSH) We have a reduction in violent crime because we put people behind bars when they use a gun in the commission of the crime. Thats the better approach. But were living in a society today where despair kind of grows in isolation
(RUBIO) First of all, the only people that follow the law are law-abiding people. Criminals by definition ignore the law, so you can pass all the gun laws in the world, like the left wants. The criminals are going to ignore it because they are criminals. Heres the real issue.
(RUBIO) (APPLAUSE) The real issue -- the real issue is not what are people using to commit violence, but why are they committing the violence? And heres the truth: Because you cannot separate the social, moral wellbeing of your people from their economic and other wellbeing. You cannot separate it.
(RUBIO) You cant have a strong country without strong people, you cannot have strong people without strong values, and you cannot have strong values without strong families and the institutions in this country that defend and support those families.
(HEWITT & RUBIO) HEWITT: Thank you, Senator. RUBIO: Well, and today, we have a left-wing government under this president that is undermining all of the institutions and society that support the family and teach those values.
(CRUZ) And indeed, just a couple of years ago, when Harry Reid and Barack Obama came after the right to keep and bear arms of millions of Americans, I was proud to lead the fight in the United States Senate to protect our right to keep and bear arms, and for that reason...
(HEWITT & CRUZ) HEWITT: Thank you, Senator. CRUZ: ... I was honored to be endorsed by Gun Owners of America... HEWITT: Thank you, Senator. CRUZ: ... as the strongest supporter of the Second Amendment on this stage today, and I will... HEWITT: Thank you, senator. CRUZ: ... fight every day to defend the Bill of Rights.
(BASH) Chris Christie says billionaires like you and even people who make and earn far less should no longer get Social Security, or at least there should be limits based on -- on their income. You think hes wrong, and if so, why?
(TRUMP) As a policy, I would almost leave it up to the people. Dont forget they pay in and they pay in, and maybe they do well, and maybe some people want it. But the fact is that there are people that truly dont need it, and there are many people that do need it very, very badly. And I would be willing to write mine off 100 percent, Dana.
(CHRISTIE) Shes going to want to put more money into a system that has already lied to us and stolen from us. This government doesnt need more money to make Social Security solvent. We need to be not paying out benefits to people who dont really need it.
(CHRISTIE) We need to protect the people who Social Security means the difference between picking between heat and rent and food. Thats why I put out the proposal and thats the people Im trying to... (CROSSTALK)
(TAPPER) Senator Rubio, Ronald Reagans secretary of state, George Shultz, reminds us that when Reagan was president he faced a similar situation to the one that were facing now. There were dire warnings from the mass consensus of the scientific community about the ozone layer shrinking.
(TAPPER) Shultz says Ronald Reagan urged skeptics in industry to come up with a plan. He said, do it as an insurance policy in case the scientists are right. The scientists were right. Reagan and his approach worked.
(RUBIO) Well, and I dont -- he may have lined up with their positions on this issue. But here is the bottom line. Every proposal they put forward are going to be proposals that will make it harder to do business in America, that will make it harder to create jobs in America.
(RUBIO) Single parents are already struggling across this country to provide for their families. Maybe a billionaire here in California can afford an increase in their utility rates, but a working family in Tampa, Florida, or anywhere across this country cannot afford it.
(RUBIO) So we are not going to destroy our economy. We are not going to make America a harder place to create jobs in order to pursue policies that will do absolutely nothing, nothing to change our climate, to change our weather, because America is a lot of things, the greatest country in the world, absolutely.
(TAPPER) Governor Christie, you have said that climate change is real, and that humans help contribute to it. Without getting into the issue of China versus the United States, which I understand youve talked about before, what do you make of skeptics of climate change such as Senator Rubio?
(CHRISTIE) I dont think Senator Rubio is a skeptic of climate change. I think what Senator Rubio said I agree with. That in fact we dont need this massive government intervention to deal with the problem.
(CHRISTIE) Look at what we have done in New Jersey. We have already reached our clean air goals for 2020. And when I was governor, I pulled out of the regional cap and trade deal, the only state in the Northeast that did that. And we still reached our goals.
(CHRISTIE) Why? Because 53 percent of our electricity comes from nuclear. We use natural gas. We use solar power. Were the third-highest- using solar power state. You know why? Because we made all of those things economically feasible.
(CHRISTIE) I agree with Marco. We shouldnt be destroying our economy in order to chase some wild left-wing idea that somehow us by ourselves is going to fix the climate. We can contribute to that and be economically sound.
(CHRISTIE) I understand. No, no, listen, everybody makes a mistake every once in a while, Jake, even George Shultz. And if thats truly a representation of what he believes we should be doing, then with all due respect to the former secretary of state, I disagree with him.
(RUBIO) OK. A skeptic. You can measure the climate. You can measure it. Thats not the issue were discussing. Here is what Im skeptical of. Im skeptical of the decisions that the left wants us to make, because I know the impact those are going to have and theyre all going to be on our economy.
(RUBIO) They will not do a thing to lower the rise of the sea. They will not do a thing to cure the drought here in California. But what they will do is they will make America a more expensive place to create jobs.
(RUBIO) And today with millions of people watching this broadcast that are struggling paycheck to paycheck that do not know how theyre going to pay their bills at the end of this month, Im not in favor of anything that is going to make it harder for them to raise their family. (CROSSTALK)
(WALKER) ... a lot of those people, though, and Im going to echo what Senator Rubio just said. This is an issue where, were talking about my state, its thousands of manufacturing jobs. Thousands of manufacturing jobs for a rule the Obama administration, own EPA has said will have a marginal impact on climate change.
(WALKER) So were going to put thousands and thousands of jobs in my state, I think its something like 30,000 in Ohio, other states across this country, were going to put people -- manufacturing jobs, the kind of jobs that are far greater than minimum wage, this administration is willing to put at risk for something its own EPA says is marginal (ph)...
(TAPPER) A backlash against vaccines was blamed for a measles outbreak here in California. Dr. Carson, Donald Trump has publicly and repeatedly linked vaccines, childhood vaccines, to autism, which, as you know, the medical community adamantly disputes. Youre a pediatric neurosurgeon. Should Mr. Trump stop saying this?
(CARSON) This was something that was spread widely 15 or 20 years ago, and it has not been adequately, you know, revealed to the public whats actually going on. Vaccines are very important. Certain ones. The ones that would prevent death or crippling.
(CARSON) There are others, there are a multitude of vaccines which probably dont fit in that category, and there should be some discretion in those cases. But, you know, a lot of this is -- is -- is pushed by big government.
(CARSON) And I think thats one of the things that people so vehemently want to get rid of, big government. You know, we have 4.1 million federal employees. Six hundred and fifty federal agencies and department (sic). Thats why they have to take so much of our taxes.
(TAPPER) Mr. Trump, as president, you would be in charge of the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health, both of which say you are wrong. How would you handle this as president?
(TRUMP) I am totally in favor of vaccines. But I want smaller doses over a longer period of time. Because you take a baby in -- and Ive seen it -- and Ive seen it, and I had my children taken care of over a long period of time, over a two or three year period of time.
(TRUMP) Same exact amount, but you take this little beautiful baby, and you pump -- I mean, it looks just like its meant for a horse, not for a child, and weve had so many instances, people that work for me.
(TRUMP) Just the other day, two years old, two and a half years old, a child, a beautiful child went to have the vaccine, and came back, and a week later got a tremendous fever, got very, very sick, now is autistic.
(TAPPER & TRUMP) TAPPER: Thank you. TRUMP: But just in -- in little sections. TAPPER: Dr. -- Dr. Carson? TRUMP: I think -- and I think youre going to have -- I think youre going to see a big impact on autism.
(CARSON) But, you know, the fact of the matter is, we have extremely well-documented proof that theres no autism associated with vaccinations. But it is true that we are probably giving way too many in too short a period of time.
(PAUL) One of the greatest -- one of the greatest medical discoveries of all times was -- were the vaccines, particularly for smallpox. And if you want to read a story, its called The Speckled Monster, its an amazing story, it was all done voluntary.
(PAUL) Im also a little concerned about how theyre bunched up. My kids had all of their vaccines, and even if the science doesnt say bunching them up is a problem, I ought to have the right to spread out my vaccines out a little bit at the very least.
(HUCKABEE) And I would really believe that the next president ought to declare a war on cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and Alzheimers, because those are the four things that are causing the greatest level of cost.
(HUCKABEE) John Kennedy said, well go to the moon in a decade and bring a man back, and we did it. I grew up in the 50s. I remember the polio vaccine. We saved billions of dollars since that time, because we havent had to treat for polio.
(HUCKABEE) Why doesnt this country focus on cures rather than treatment? Why dont we put a definitive focus scientifically on finding the cure for cancer, for heart disease, for diabetes and for Alzheimers, a disease alone that will cost us --
(TAPPER) Welcome back to CNNs Republican Presidential Debate at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. We have a few last questions for you. Two of them a little lighthearted, the other one more serious. Well start with one of the more light questions. Senator Paul, Im going to start with you and were just going to go down the line.
(HUCKABEE) Ive been married to her 41 years. Shes fought cancer and lived through it. Shes raised three kids, five great grandkids, and shes put up with me. I mean, who else could possibly be on that money other than my wife. And that way, she could spend her own money with her face.
(CRUZ) And I very much agree with Marco that it should be Rosa Parks. She was a principled pioneer that helped change this country, helped remedy racial injustice, and that would be an honor that would be entirely appropriate.
(CARSON) Id put my mother on there. You know, she was one of 24 children, got married at age 13, had only a third grade education, had to raise two sons by herself, refused to be a victim. Wouldnt let us be victims, and has been an inspiration to many people. (APPLAUSE)
(WALKER) First of all, I got to say to Carson, Huckabee, thanks a lot for making the rest of us look like chumps up here, but, Id pick Clara Barton. I once worked for the American Red Cross, she was a great founder of the Red Cross.
(CHRISTIE) I think the Adams family has been shorted in the currency business. Our country wouldnt be here without John Adams, and he would not have been able to do it without Abigal Adams, so, Id put Abigail Adams on the bill. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) Alright. Some good entries if anybody at the mint was listening. Heres the next lighthearted question, you all know that the United States Secret Service uses codenames for the president, and his family.
(TAPPER) OK, heres the more serious question, Ronald Reagan, the 40th President, used the plane behind you to accomplish a great many things. Perhaps, most notably, to challenge Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the wall, and ultimately, to make peace with the USSR.
(PAUL) It was a big deal because he was the grassroots, running against the establishment, and Ill never forget that. And, how he stood up and said, you know what, this is something new that our country needs, and our party needs.
(PAUL) If I were president, I would try to be one who says, you know what, Im a Reagan Conservative. Im someone who believes in peace through strength, and I would try to lead the country in that way knowing that our goal is peace, and that war is the last resort, not the first resort.
(PAUL) And, that when we go to war, we go to war in a constitutional way, which means that we have to vote on it, that war is initiated by congress, not by the president, that we go to war electively (ph). That when we go to war, we dont fight with one arm tied behind our back, we fight all out to win, but then we come home. (APPLAUSE)
(HUCKABEE) At the end of my presidency I would like to believe that the world would be a safe place, and there wouldnt be the threats. not only to the U.S., but to Israel and our allies, because we would have the most incredible well-trained, well-equipped, well- prepared military in the history of mankind.
(HUCKABEE) And they would know that the commander-in-chief would never send them to a mission without all the resources necessary, but people wouldnt bully us anymore. Because they would know that that would be an invitation to their destruction.
(HUCKABEE) And life would be really deemed precious. Abortion would be no more. It would be as much of a scourge in our past as slavery is. And we would have a peaceful country, where people respected each other and people respected law enforcement. And we would focus on cures.
(RUBIO) One of the things that made Ronald Reagan a great president, is that he understood that America was a unique nation, like any other that had existed throughout human history. He knew it was founded on universal principles that were powerful, the dignity of all people, human rights, the rights of all to live in freedom and liberty, and choose their own path in life.
(RUBIO) He didnt just believe it, he acted on it. Thats why bringing down communism was so important to him. If Im honored with the opportunity to be president, I hope that our Air Force One will fly, first and foremost, to our allies; in Israel, in South Korea, and Japan. They know we stand with them. That America can be counted on.
(RUBIO) It would also fly to China, not just to meet with our enemies, not just to meet with those adversaries of ours that are there, but also to meet with those that aspire to freedom and liberty within China. I would even invite them to my inauguration.
(CRUZ) If Im elected president our friends and allies across the globe will know that we stand with them. the bust of Winston Churchill will be back in the Oval Office, and the American embassy in Israel will be in Jerusalem.
(CRUZ) Enemies across this world will know the United States is not to be trifled with. ISIS will be defeated. We will have a president willing to utter the words, radical Islamic terrorism, and the Ayatollah Khamenei will understand that he will never, ever, ever acquire nuclear weapons.
(CRUZ) Here at home, well reignite the promise of America. Young people coming out of school, with student loans up to their eyeballs, will find instead of no jobs, two, three, four, five job opportunities.
(CARSON) I see us allowing people to divide us, when in fact our strength is in our unity. I see people exercising the most irresponsible fiscal habits that anyone could possibly do. And hiding it from the American people, so that the majority of people have no idea what our financial situation is.
(CARSON) So, when someone comes along and says, free college, free phones, free this and that, and the other, they say, wow, thats nice, having no idea that theyre destabilizing our position. And I think also that Ronald Reagan was a master at understanding that a pinnacle nation has to be a nation that leads.
(CARSON) If we learn to lead in the Middle East right now, a coalition will form behind us, but never they do it if we just sit there and talk about it. Real leadership is what I would hopefully bring to America. (APPLAUSE)
(TRUMP) We were discussing disease, we were discussing all sorts of things tonight, many of which will just be words, it will just pass on. I dont want to say politicians, all talk, no action. But a lot of what we talked about is words and it will be forgotten very quickly.
(TRUMP) If Im president, many of the things that we discussed tonight will not be forgotten. Well find solutions. And the world will respect us. They will respect us like never before. And it will be actually a friendlier world.
(BUSH) Six million more people are living in poverty than the day that Barack Obama got elected president. Six million more people. The middle class has had declining income, workforce participation rates are lower than they were in 1977.
(BUSH) And I believe we can reverse course by creating a strategy of high sustained economic growth, not the new normal of 2 percent that all the left says we just have to get used to, but a 4 percent growth strategy where we reform how we tax, fix the broken regulatory system,
(BUSH) embrace the energy revolution in our midst, fix the immigration system so we can turn it into an economic driver, deal with the structural fiscal problems that exist because of our entitlement problems that will overwhelm and create way too much debt.
(BUSH) That should be the great challenge and the great opportunity for the next president of the United States, to forge consensus to go back to a high-growth strategy. And then well be able to lead the world.
(WALKER) And I think what changed things was people in America realized they didnt want to hear what was bad about America, they wanted to know how it was going to be better. Ronald Reagan wasnt just a conservative Republican, he was an eternal optimist in the American people.
(WALKER) We need to live in an America where we have an economy, where everyone can live their piece of the American dream, no matter what that dream is. And we need to live in an America where we have a federal government that is not too big to fail, but ultimately small enough to succeed, where we send powers back to the states and back to the people.
(WALKER) Thats what I did in Wisconsin. We took on the big government union bosses, the big government special interests, many of whom came in from Washington, to spend millions of dollars to try and take me out because we stood up to them, we didnt back down in any of those instances.
(FIORINA) And Lady Justice, Lady Justice holds a sword by her side, because she is a fighter, a warrior for the values and the principles that have made this nation great. She holds a scale in her other hand.
(FIORINA) And she wears a blindfold. And with that blindfold she is saying to us that it must be true, it can be true that in this country, in this century, it doesnt matter who you are, it doesnt matter what you look like,
(KASICH) Well, as president, I will make this a nation that will solve problems. And how? By having the elected officials and the leaders realize theyre Americans before theyre Republicans or Democrats.
(KASICH) Secondly, I will rebuild the relationships and show the respect to our allies around the world. We have no choice but to do that. We will be stronger when we are unified. And well fight for freedom and for human rights.
(KASICH) And finally, a little bit of what Carly said. The people that are out there listening, America was never great because we ran America from the top down. America is great because we have run America from the bottom up, where we all live in the neighborhoods.
(CHRISTIE) Tonight, you sit at home in your living room, frustrated that you play by the rules, you pay the taxes, you do the hard things to raise your family, yet you feel like Americas generosity is being taken advantage of.
(CHRISTIE) Our presidency -- our presidency -- will be about ending that, about enforcing the law, level the playing field for everybody, and once again reward those folks who play by the rules, and think that justice means more than just the word. But it means a way of life.
(CHRISTIE) And I will tell you this, around the world, I will not shake hands with, I will not meet with, and I will not agree to anything with a country that says death to us and death to Israel and holds our hostages while we sign agreements with them.
(CHRISTIE) It will be an America that be strong and resolute, and will once again be able to stick out its chest and say, we truly are the greatest nation in the world, because we live our lives that way, each and every day. (APPLAUSE)
(TAPPER) That concludes this Republican presidential debate. On behalf of everyone here at CNN, we want to thank the candidates, the Reagan Library, and the Republican National Committee. Thank you, also, to Hugh Hewitt and Dana Bash.
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