Democratic Debate #1: Television Coverage
The GDELT Project and the Internet Archive are partnering together to help better understand which soundbites and speakers are dominating the political discourse on television. In particular, we are working to translate the social media concepts of "memes" and "going viral" to the television world. Using the Internet Archive's Television News Archive, which monitors major American and international television stations in realtime, along with an archive of more than 735,000 television shows since 2009, we scan all monitored television programming for audio fingerprints of each soundbite of selected major political speeches and identify all excerpts of those soundbites across television news shows in the following days. The tool we use, audfprint, developed by the Laboratory for the Recognition and Organization of Speech and Audio at Columbia University, scans the audio track of each show, so it is not dependent on closed captioning, which is extremely noisy and entirely absent from many foreign language broadcasts. The tool is extremely sensitive, able to detect brief excerpts even when they are overdubbed by a commentator and/or other sound effects.
Today we are excited to unveil our latest application: the Democratic Presidential Prime Debate, held at 8:30PM EST on October 13, 2015 at the Wynn Las Vegas hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. The entire transcript of the debate was hand-segmented into soundbites and all television news programming monitored by the Internet Archive for 24 hours following the debate were scanned for any excerpt of those soundbites, which are displayed below. Browse the entire transcript below and click on any passage to see how many times and where it was excerpted, and click on the video icon to the left of each passage or the list of shows mentioning the excerpt in the bottom right to view a brief video clip of the soundbite. These numbers only reflect those television shows monitored by the Internet Archive, representing only a small set of television stations in the United States. Thus, these numbers are far from exhaustive in terms of measuring the total reach of the debate, but offers a powerful glimpse into which pieces of the speech resonated and where.
What you are seeing here is a first glimpse of a whole new way of exploring television, using enormously powerful computer algorithms as a new lens through which to explore the Internet Archive's massive archive of television news to create for the first time a way of tracking what's "going viral" on television. Quite literally this project took an hour-long political speech, broke it into soundbites, and scanned two weeks of national television news programming for any excerpt of any of those soundbites. Imagine the future possibilities for tracking how soundbites move between social and mainstream media, and the future ability to apply these techniques to explore soundbites in online video!
Visualizing the Debate
The final results of this analysis are available through the interface below. By default the entire debate transcript is shown, but you can use the search box below to narrow to only soundbites containing a particular keyword or that were aired on a particular station or show. The timeline below shows how many times each soundbite was broadcast. As you scroll through the transcript, the top-most paragraph will automatically highlight in yellow and the corresponding time period will highlight in the timeline below,l while the sidebar to the right of the transcript will display key statistics about that passage, along with a list of links to view previews of every identified mention of that soundbite on a news show. The timeline allows you to zoom into any section to see it more clearly - click anywhere in the middle of the graph on the white background (not the bottom of the graph) and drag with your mouse to highlight a section of the timeline - a "reset zoom" button will appear at the top right of the timeline display to zoom back out to the original view. While zoomed in you can hold down the shift key on your keyboard and click and drag to pan the timeline forward/backwards.
By default the entire debate transcript is displayed below. You can use the options below to filter to only a subset of the debate, such as only those lines appearing on a particular television station or show, or only those lines containing a certain keyword/phrase or spoken by a particular person. Only lines matching all of your criteria below are included.
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(CHAFEE) Not only will Americans be electing a new president next year, we also will be electing a world leader. Voters should assess the candidates experience, character and vision for the future as they make this important decision.
(CHAFEE) Im the only one running for president that has been a mayor, a United States senator, and a governor. As mayor, I brought labor peace to my city and kept taxes down. I was reelected three times.
(CHAFEE) As a senator, I earned a reputation for courageous votes against the Bush-Cheney tax cuts the favored the wealthy, against the tragedy of the Iraq war, for environmental stewardship, for protection of our civil liberties.
(CHAFEE) As governor, I came in at the depths of the recession and we turned my state around. Rhode Island had the biggest drop of the unemployment rate over my four budgets of all but one state. It happens to be Nevada, where were having this debate.
(CHAFEE) Im very proud that over my almost 30 years of public service, I have had no scandals. Ive always been honest. I have the courage to take the long-term view, and Ive shown good judgment. I have high ethical standards.
(CHAFEE) As we look to the future, I want to address the income inequality, close the gap between the haves and the have-nots. I want to address climate change, a real threat to our planet. And I believe in prosperity through peace. I want to end these wars.
(WEBB) Thank you.You know, people are disgusted with the way that money has corrupted our political process, intimidating incumbents and empowering Wall Street every day, the turnstile government that we see, and also the power of the financial sector in both parties.
(WEBB) Theyre looking for a leader who understands how the system works, who has not been coopted by it, and also has a proven record of accomplishing different things. I have a record of working across the political aisle.
(WEBB) I brought criminal justice reform out of the political shadows and into the national discussion. I led what later became called the Strategic Pivot to Asia two years before President Obama was elected.
(WEBB) I know where my loyalties are.My mother grew up in the poverty of east Arkansas chopping cotton, picking strawberries. Three of her seven siblings died in childhood. My wife, Hong, came to this country as a refugee from war torn Vietnam -- learned English, a language that was not spoken at home, and earned her way into Cornell Law School.
(WEBB) I have five daughters. Amy works with disabled veterans, Sarah is an emergency room nurse, Julia is a massage therapist, Emily and Georgia are still in school. My son Jim fought as an infantry Marine on the bloody streets of Ramadi.
(WEBB) You may be sure that in a Webb administration, the highest priority will be the working people who every day go out and make this country stronger at home, and who give us the right reputation and security overseas under a common sense foreign policy. Thank you.
(OMALLEY) Whether it was raising the minimum wage, making our public schools the best in America, passing marriage equality, the DREAM Act, and comprehensive gun safety legislation, I have learned how to get things done because I am very clear about my principals.
(OMALLEY) But we elected a president, not a magician, and there is urgent work that needs to be done right now. For there is a -- deep injustice, an economic injustice that threatens to tear our country apart, and it will not solve itself. Injustice does not solve itself.
(OMALLEY) Our economy isnt money, its people. Its all of our people, and so we must invest in our country, and the potential of our kids to make college a debt free option for all of our families, instead of settling our kids with a lifetime of crushing debt.
(OMALLEY) And, the question in this election is whether you and I still have the ability to give our kids a better future. I believe we do, that is why I am running for president, and I need your help. Thank you. (APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) Anderson, thank you very much. I think most Americans understand that our country today faces a series of unprecedented crises. The middle class of this country for the last 40 years has been disappearing.
(SANDERS) Millionaires and billionaires are pouring unbelievable sums of money into the political process in order to fund super PACs and to elect candidates who represent their interests, not the interests of working people.
(SANDERS) Today, the scientific community is virtually unanimous: climate change is real, it is caused by human activity, and we have a moral responsibility to transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energy and leave this planet a habitable planet for our children and our grandchildren.
(SANDERS) Today in America, we have more people in jail than any other country on Earth. African-American youth unemployment is 51 percent. Hispanic youth unemployment is 36 percent. It seems to me that instead of building more jails and providing more incarceration, maybe -- just maybe -- we should be putting money into education and jobs for our kids.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) What this campaign is about is whether we can mobilize our people to take back our government from a handful of billionaires and create the vibrant democracy we know we can and should have. Thank you.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) Im Hillary Clinton. I have been proud and privileged to serve as first lady, as a senator from New York, and as secretary of state. Im the granddaughter of a factory worker and the grandmother of a wonderful one-year-old child.
(CLINTON) And every day, I think about what we need to do to make sure that opportunity is available not just for her, but for all of our children. I have spent a very long time -- my entire adult life -- looking for ways to even the odds to help people have a chance to get ahead, and, in particular, to find the ways for each child to live up to his or her God-given potential.
(CLINTON) Ive traveled across our country over the last months listening and learning, and Ive put forward specific plans about how were going to create more good-paying jobs: by investing in infrastructure and clean energy, by making it possible once again to invest in science and research, and taking the opportunity posed by climate change to grow our economy.
(CLINTON) At the center of my campaign is how were going to raise wages. Yes, of course, raise the minimum wage, but we have to do so much more, including finding ways so that companies share profits with the workers who helped to make them.
(CLINTON) So I have specific recommendations about how were going to close those loopholes, make it clear that the wealthy will have to pay their fair share, and have a series of tax cuts for middle-class families.
(CLINTON) And I want to do more to help us balance family and work. I believe in equal pay for equal work for women, but I also believe its about time we had paid family leave for American families and join the rest of the world.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) And I will do everything I can to heal the divides -- the divides economically, because theres too much inequality; the racial divides; the continuing discrimination against the LGBT community -- so that we work together and, yes, finally, fathers will be able to say to their daughters, you, too, can grow up to be president.(APPLAUSE)
(COOPER) All right. Lets begin. Were going to be discussing a lot of the issues, many of the issues, important issues that you have brought up. But I want to begin with concerns that voters have about each of the candidates here on this stage that they have about each of you.
(CLINTON) Well, actually, I have been very consistent. Over the course of my entire life, I have always fought for the same values and principles, but, like most human beings -- including those of us who run for office -- I do absorb new information. I do look at whats happening in the world.
(CLINTON) You know, take the trade deal. I did say, when I was secretary of state, three years ago, that I hoped it would be the gold standard. It was just finally negotiated last week, and in looking at it, it didnt meet my standards. My standards for more new, good jobs for Americans, for raising wages for Americans.
(COOPER) Secretary Clinton, though, with all due respect, the question is really about political expediency. Just in July, New Hampshire, you told the crowd youd, quote, take a back seat to no one when it comes to progressive values.
(CLINTON) No. I think that, like most people that I know, I have a range of views, but they are rooted in my values and my experience. And I dont take a back seat to anyone when it comes to progressive experience and progressive commitment.
(CLINTON) You know, when I left law school, my first job was with the Childrens Defense Fund, and for all the years since, I have been focused on how were going to un-stack the deck, and how were gonna make it possible for more people to have the experience I had.
(CLINTON) Im a progressive. But Im a progressive who likes to get things done. And I know...(APPLAUSE)...how to find common ground, and I know how to stand my ground, and I have proved that in every position that Ive had, even dealing with Republicans who never had a good word to say about me, honestly.
(CLINTON & COOPER ) CLINTON: But we found ways to work together on everything from...COOPER: Secretary...CLINTON: ...reforming foster care and adoption to the Childrens Health Insurance Program, which insures...COOPER: ...thank you...CLINTON: ...8 million kids. So I have a long history of getting things done, rooted in the same values...COOPER: ...Senator...CLINTON: ...Ive always had.
(COOPER) Senator Sanders. A Gallup poll says half the country would not put a socialist in the White House. You call yourself a democratic socialist. How can any kind of socialist win a general election in the United States?
(SANDERS) And what democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1 percent in this country own almost 90 percent -- almost -- own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. That it is wrong, today, in a rigged economy, that 57 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent.
(SANDERS) You see every other major country saying to moms that, when you have a baby, were not gonna separate you from your newborn baby, because we are going to have -- we are gonna have medical and family paid leave, like every other country on Earth.
(SANDERS) Those are some of the principles that I believe in, and I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people.(APPLAUSE)
(COOPER) Denmark is a country that has a population -- Denmark is a country that has a population of 5.6 million people. The question is really about electability here, and thats what Im trying to get at.
(COOPER) You -- the -- the Republican attack ad against you in a general election -- it writes itself. You supported the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. You honeymooned in the Soviet Union. And just this weekend, you said youre not a capitalist.Doesnt -- doesnt that ad write itself?
(SANDERS) Do I consider myself part of the casino capitalist process by which so few have so much and so many have so little by which Wall Streets greed and recklessness wrecked this economy? No, I dont.
(CLINTON) Well, let me just follow-up on that, Anderson, because when I think about capitalism, I think about all the small businesses that were started because we have the opportunity and the freedom in our country for people to do that and to make a good living for themselves and their families.
(CLINTON) And I dont think we should confuse what we have to do every so often in America, which is save capitalism from itself. And I think what Senator Sanders is saying certainly makes sense in the terms of the inequality that we have.
(CLINTON) But we are not Denmark. I love Denmark. We are the United States of America. And its our job to rein in the excesses of capitalism so that it doesnt run amok and doesnt cause the kind of inequities were seeing in our economic system.
(CLINTON & COOPER ) CLINTON: But we would be making a grave mistake to turn our backs on what built the greatest middle class in the history...COOPER: Senator Sanders?CLINTON: ... of the world.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS & COOPER ) SANDERS: So what we need to do is support small and medium-sized businesses, the backbone of our economy, but we have to make sure that every family in this country gets a fair shake...COOPER: Were going to get...SANDERS: ... not just for billionaires.
(COOPER) Governor Chafee, youve been everything but a socialist. When you were senator from Rhode Island, you were a Republican. When you were elected governor, you were an independent. Youve only been a Democrat for little more than two years. Why should Democratic voters trust you wont change again?
(CHAFEE) Did you hear what I said? On the issues. I have not changed on the issues. I was a liberal Republican, then I was an independent, and now Im a proud Democrat. But I have not changed on the issues.
(CHAFEE) And I open my record to scrutiny. Whether its on the environment, a womans right to choose, gay marriage, fiscal responsibility, aversion to foreign entanglements, using the tools of government to help the less fortunate.
(CHAFEE) The party left me. Theres no doubt about that. There was no room for a liberal moderate Republican in that party. I even had a primary for my reelection in 2006. I won it. But the money poured in to defeat me in Rhode Island as a Republican. Thats what we were up against.
(COOPER) The current top prosecutor in Baltimore, also a Democrat, blames your zero tolerance policies for sowing the seeds of unrest. Why should Americans trust you with the country when they see whats going on in the city that you ran for more than seven years?
(COOPER) She actually -- just for the record, when she was asked which policies, to name two, she said zero tolerance. I mean, theres a number of old policies that were seeing the results of. That distress of communities, where communities dont want to step forward and say who killed a 3-year-old, its a direct result of these failed policies.
(OMALLEY) Well, lets talk about this a little bit. One of the things that was not reported during that heartbreaking night of unrest in Baltimore was that arrests had actually fallen to a 38-year low in the year prior to the Freddie Grays tragic death.
(OMALLEY) Anderson, when I ran for mayor of Baltimore back in 1999, it was not because our city was doing well. It was because we allowed ourselves to become the most violent, addicted, and abandoned city in America.
(OMALLEY) And I ran and promised people that together we could turn that around. And we put our city on a path to reduce violent crime, or part one (ph) crime by more than any other major city in America over the next 10 years.
(OMALLEY) I did not make our city immune to setbacks. But I attended a lot of funerals, including one for a family of seven who were firebombed in their sleep for picking up the phone in a poor African-American neighborhood and calling the police because of drug dealers on their corner.
(OMALLEY) Weve saved over a thousand lives in Baltimore in the last 15 years of people working together. And the vast majority of them were young and poor and black. It wasnt easy on any day. But we saved lives and we gave our city a better future, improving police and community relations every single day that I was in office.
(COOPER) In one year alone, though, 100,000 arrests were made in your city, a city of 640,000 people. The ACLU, the NAACP sued you, sued the city, and the city actually settled, saying a lot of those arrests were without probable cause.
(OMALLEY) Well, I think the key word in your followup there was the word settle. Thats true. It was settled. Arrests peaked in 2003, Anderson, but they declined every year after that as we restored peace in our poorer neighborhoods so that people could actually walk and not have to worry about their kids or their loved ones of being victims of violent crime.
(OMALLEY) Look, none of this is easy. None of us has all the answers. But together as a city, we saved a lot of lives. It was about leadership. It was about principle. And it was about bringing people together.
(COOPER) Senator Webb, in 2006, you called affirmative action state-sponsored racism. In 2010, you wrote an op/ed saying it discriminates against whites. Given that nearly half the Democratic Party is non-white, arent you out of step with where the Democratic Party is now?
(WEBB) No, actually I believe that I am where the Democratic Party traditionally has been. The Democratic Party, and the reason Ive decided to run as a Democrat, has been the party that gives people who otherwise have no voice in the corridors of power a voice. And that is not determined by race.
(WEBB) And as a clarification, I have always supported affirmative action for African Americans. Thats the way the program was originally designed because of their unique history in this country, with slavery and the Jim Crow laws that followed.
(WEBB) What I have discussed a number of times is the idea that when we create diversity programs that include everyone, quote, of color, other than whites, struggling whites like the families in the Appalachian mountains, were not being true to the Democratic Party principle of elevating the level of consciousness among our people about the hardships that a lot of people who happen to be have -- by culture, by the way.
(COOPER) Were going to start with guns. The shooting in Oregon earlier this month, once again it brought the issue of guns into the national conversation. Over the last week, guns have been the most discussed political topic on Facebook by two to one.
(COOPER) For a decade, you said that holding gun manufacturers legally responsible for mass shootings is a bad idea. Now, you say youre reconsidering that. Which is it: shield the gun companies from lawsuits or not?
(SANDERS) Lets begin, Anderson, by understanding that Bernie Sanders has a D-minus voting rating (ph) from the NRA. Lets also understand that back in 1988 when I first ran for the United States Congress, way back then, I told the gun owners of the state of Vermont and I told the people of the state of Vermont, a state which has virtually no gun control, that I supported a ban on assault weapons.
(SANDERS) And over the years, I have strongly avoided instant background checks, doing away with this terrible gun show loophole. And I think weve got to move aggressively at the federal level in dealing with the straw man purchasers.
(SANDERS) Also I believe, and Ive fought for, to understand that there are thousands of people in this country today who are suicidal, who are homicidal, but cant get the healthcare that they need, the mental healthcare, because they dont have insurance or theyre too poor. I believe that everybody in this country who has a mental crisis has got to get mental health counseling immediately.
(SANDERS) This was a large and complicated bill. There were provisions in it that I think made sense. For example, do I think that a gun shop in the state of Vermont that sells legally a gun to somebody, and that somebody goes out and does something crazy, that that gun shop owner should be held responsible? I dont.
(CLINTON) No, not at all. I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and its time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country...(APPLAUSE)... supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do.
(CLINTON) Senator Sanders did vote five times against the Brady bill. Since it was passed, more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. He also did vote, as he said, for this immunity provision. I voted against it. I was in the Senate at the same time.
(CLINTON) It wasnt that complicated to me. It was pretty straightforward to me that he was going to give immunity to the only industry in America. Everybody else has to be accountable, but not the gun manufacturers. And we need to stand up and say: Enough of that. Were not going to let it continue.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.
(SANDERS) I believe that there is a consensus in this country. A consensus has said we need to strengthen and expand instant background checks, do away with this gun show loophole, that we have to address the issue of mental health, that we have to deal with the strawman purchasing issue, and that when we develop that consensus, we can finally, finally do something to address this issue.
(COOPER) Governor OMALLEY, you passed gun legislation as governor of Maryland, but you had a Democratic-controlled legislature. President Obama couldnt convince Congress to pass gun legislation after the massacres in Aurora, in Newtown, and Charleston. How can you?
(OMALLEY) And, Anderson, I also had to overcome a lot of opposition in the leadership of my own party to get this done. Look, its fine to talk about all of these things -- and Im glad were talking about these things -- but Ive actually done them.
(OMALLEY) We passed comprehensive gun safety legislation, not by looking at the pollings or looking at what the polls said. We actually did it. And, Anderson, here tonight in our audience are two people that make this issue very, very real. Sandy and Lonnie Phillips are here from Colorado. And their daughter, Jessie, was one of those who lost their lives in that awful mass shooting in Aurora.
(OMALLEY) Now, to try to transform their grief, they went to court, where sometimes progress does happen when you file in court, but in this case, you want to talk about a -- a rigged game, Senator? The game was rigged. A man had sold 4,000 rounds of military ammunition to this -- this person that killed their daughter, riddled her body with five bullets, and he didnt even ask where it was going.
(OMALLEY) And not only did their case get thrown out of court, they were slapped with $200,000 in court fees because of the way that the NRA gets its way in our Congress and we take a backseat. Its time to stand up and pass comprehensive gun safety legislation as a nation.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) I think the governor gave a very good example about the weaknesses in that law and I think we have to take another look at it. But here is the point, Governor. We can raise our voices, but I come from a rural state, and the views on gun control in rural states are different than in urban states, whether we like it or not.
(SANDERS) Our job is to bring people together around strong, commonsense gun legislation. I think there is a vast majority in this country who want to do the right thing, and I intend to lead the country in bringing our people together.
(OMALLEY & SANDERS ) OMALLEY: Senator -- Senator, excuse me.(CROSSTALK)OMALLEY: Senator, it is not about rural -- Senator, it was not about rural and urban.SANDERS: Its exactly about rural.OMALLEY: Have you ever been to the Eastern Shore?
(OMALLEY & SANDERS ) SANDERS: Governor...OMALLEY: And we did it by leading with principle, not by pandering to the NRA and backing down to the NRA.SANDERS: Well, as somebody who has a D-minus voting record...(CROSSTALK)OMALLEY: And I have an F from the NRA, Senator.SANDERS: I dont think I am pandering.
(COOPER) Let me bring in somebody who has a different viewpoint. Senator Webb, your rating from the NRA, you once had an A rating from the NRA. Youve said gun violence goes down when more people are allowed to carry guns. Would encouraging more people to be armed be part of your response to a mass shooting?
(WEBB) Look, there are two fundamental issues that are involved in this discussion. We need to pay respect to both of them. The first is the issue of who should be kept from having guns and using firearms. And we have done not a good job on that.
(WEBB) A lot of them are criminals. And a lot of the people are getting killed are members of gangs inside our urban areas. And a lot of them are mentally incapacitated. And the shooting in Virginia Tech in 07, this individual had received medical care for mental illness from three different professionals who were not allowed to share the information.
(WEBB) So we do need background checks. We need to keep the people who should not have guns away from them. But we have to respect the tradition in this country of people who want to defend themselves and their family from violence.
(COOPER & WEBB ) COOPER: Senator...WEBB: May I? People are going back and forth here for 10 minutes here. There are people at high levels in this government who have bodyguards 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The average American does not have that, and deserves the right to be able to protect their family.
(CHAFEE) Yes, I have a good record of voting for gun commonsense safety legislation, but the reality is, despite these tragedies that happen time and time again, when legislators step up to pass commonsense gun safety legislation, the gun lobby moves in and tells the people theyre coming to take away your guns.
(CHAFEE) And, theyre successful at it, in Colorado and others states, the legislators that vote for commonsense gun safety measures then get defeated. I even saw in Rhode Island. So, I would bring the gun lobby in and say weve got to change this. Where can we find common ground?
(CHAFEE) Wayne Lapierre from the NRA, whoever it is, the leaders. Come one, weve go to change this. Were not coming to take away your guns, we believe in the Second Amendment, but lets find common ground here.
(COOPER & OMALLEY ) COOPER: I want to...OMALLEY: ...Anderson, when the NRA wrote to everyone in our state -- when the NRA wrote to members in our state and told people with hunting traditions lies about what our comprehensive gun safety legislation is, I wrote right back to them and laid out what it actually did. And thats why, not only did we pass it, but the NRA didnt...
(COOPER) ...I want to move on to another issue, which is in the headlines right now, another crisis making headlines.Secretary Clinton, Russia, theyre challenging the U.S. in Syria. According to U.S. intelligence, theyve lied about who theyre bombing. You spearheaded the reset with Russia. Did you underestimate the Russians, and as president, what would your response to Vladimir Putin be right now in Syria?
(CLINTON) Well, first of all, we got a lot of business done with the Russians when Medvedev was the president, and not Putin. We got a nuclear arms deal, we got the Iranian sanctions, we got an ability to bring important material and equipment to our soldiers in Afghanistan.
(CLINTON) Theres no doubt that when Putin came back in and said he was going to be President, that did change the relationship. We have to stand up to his bullying, and specifically in Syria, it is important -- and I applaud the administration because they are engaged in talks right now with the Russians to make it clear that theyve got to be part of the solution to try to end that bloody conflict.
(CLINTON) And, to -- provide safe zones so that people are not going to have to be flooding out of Syria at the rate they are. And, I think its important too that the United States make it very clear to Putin that its not acceptable for him to be in Syria creating more chaos, bombing people on behalf of Assad, and we cant do that if we dont take more of a leadership position, which is what Im advocating.
(SANDERS) Well, lets understand that when we talk about Syria, youre talking about a quagmire in a quagmire. Youre talking about groups of people trying to overthrow Assad, other groups of people fighting ISIS. Youre talking about people who are fighting ISIS using their guns to overthrow Assad, and vice versa.
(SANDERS) Im the former chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee, and in that capacity I learned a very powerful lesson about the cost of war, and I will do everything that I can to make sure that the United States does not get involved in another quagmire like we did in Iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of this country.
(BASH) Governor Chafee, you were the only Republican in the Senate to vote against the Iraq war. You say Secretary Clinton should be disqualified from the presidency because she voted in favor of using force in Iraq. She has since said that her vote was a mistake. Why isnt that good enough?
(CHAFEE) -- if youre looking ahead, and youre looking at someone who made that poor decision in 2002 to go into Iraq when there was no real evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq -- I know because I did my homework, and, so, thats an indication of how someone will perform in the future. And thats whats important.
(CLINTON) You know, I -- I agree completely. We dont want American troops on the ground in Syria. I never said that. What I said was we had to put together a coalition -- in fact, something that I worked on before I left the State Department -- to do, and yes, that it should include Arabs, people in the region.
(CLINTON) So I think while youre talking about the tough decision that President Obama had to make about Osama bin Laden, where I was one of his few advisers, or putting together that coalition to impose sanctions on Iran -- I think I have a lot of evidence...(CROSSTALK)
(BASH) Senator Sanders -- Senator Sanders, I want to bring you in here. My question for you is, as a congressman, you voted against the Iraq War. You voted against the Gulf War. Youre just talking about Syria, but under what circumstances would a President Sanders actually use force?
(SANDERS) Let me just respond to something the secretary said. First of all, she is talking about, as I understand it, a no-fly zone in Syria, which I think is a very dangerous situation. Could lead to real problems.
(SANDERS) Second of all, I heard the same evidence from President Bush and Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld about why we should overthrow Saddam Hussein and get involved in the -- I would urge people to go to berniesanders.com, hear what I said in 2002.
(SANDERS) I think the president is trying very hard to thread a tough needle here, and that is to support those people who are against Assad, against ISIS, without getting us on the ground there, and thats the direction I believe we should have (inaudible).
(SANDERS) When our country is threatened, or when our allies are threatened, I believe that we need coalitions to come together to address the major crises of this country. I do not support the United States getting involved in unilateral action.
(COOPER) Secretary Clinton voted to authorize military force in Iraq, supported more troops in Afghanistan. As Secretary of State, she wanted to arm Syrian rebels and push for the bombing of Libya. Is she too quick to use military force?
(OMALLEY) What disturbed people so much about -- and I would agree with Senator Sanders on this -- leading us into Iraq under false pretenses and telling us, as a people, that there were weapons of mass destruction there was -- was one of the worst blunders in modern American history.
(OMALLEY) But the reason why people remain angry about it is because people feel like a lot of our legislators got railroaded in a war fever and by polls. And I remember being at a dinner shortly before that invasion. People were talking at -- and saying, itll take us just a couple years to rebuild democracy, and I thought, has this world gone mad?
(OMALLEY) Whenever we go -- and contrary to John Quincy Adams advice -- searching the world for monsters to destroy, and when we use political might to take a -- at the expense of democratic principle, we hurt ourselves, and we hurt ourselves.
(COOPER) Governor OMALLEY, just for the record, on the campaign trail, youve been saying that Secretary Clinton is always quick for the -- for the military intervention. Senator -- Secretary Clinton, you can respond.
(CLINTON) You know, I have to say, I was very pleased when Governor OMALLEY endorsed me for president in 2008, and I enjoyed his strong support in that campaign. And I consider him, obviously, a friend.
(CLINTON) The president has made a very tough decision. What I believe and why I have advocated that the no-fly zone -- which of course would be in a coalition -- be put on the table is because Im trying to figure out what leverage we have to get Russia to the table.
(COOPER & CLINTON) CLINTON: And I think we have an opportunity here -- and I know that inside the administration this is being hotly debated -- to get that leverage to try to get the Russians to have to deal with everybody in the region and begin to move toward a political, diplomatic solution in Syria.COOPER: Thank you, Secretary.
(COOPER) Senator Webb, you said as president you would never have used military force in Libya and that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was, in your words, inevitable. Should Secretary Clinton have seen that attack coming?
(WEBB) Look, lets start -- Ive been trying to get in this conversation for about 10 minutes -- lets start with why Russia is in Syria right now. There are three strategic failings that have allowed this to occur. The first was the invasion of Iraq, which destabilized ethnic elements in Iraq and empowered Iran.
(WEBB) The second was the Arab Spring, which created huge vacuums in Libya and in Syria that allowed terrorist movements to move in there. And the third was the recent deal allowing Iran to move forward and eventually acquire a nuclear weapon, which sent bad signals, bad body language into the region about whether we are acquiescing in Iran becoming a stronger piece of the formula in that part of the world.
(WEBB) Now, I say this as someone who spent five years in the Pentagon and who opposed the war in Iraq, whose son fought in Iraq, Ive fought in Vietnam. But if you want a place where we need to be in terms of our national strategy, a focus, the greatest strategic threat that we have right now is resolving our relationship with China. And we need to do this because of their aggression in the region. We need to do it because of the way they treat their own people.
(COOPER & WEBB ) COOPER: Senator...WEBB: And I would say this. Ive been waiting for 10 minutes. I will say this.COOPER: Youre over your time as of now.WEBB: I will -- well, youve let a lot of people go over their time. I would say this...COOPER: You agreed to these debate rules.
(WEBB) ... to the unelected, authoritarian government of China: You do not own the South China Sea. You do not have the right to conduct cyber warfare against tens of millions of American citizens. And in a Webb administration, we will do something about that.
(COOPER & SANDERS) COOPER: Id like you to be able to respond and get in on this.SANDERS: Well, I think Mr. Putin is going to regret what he is doing. I think that when he gets into that...COOPER: He doesnt seem to be the type of guy to regret a lot.
(SANDERS) Well, I think hes already regretting what he did in Crimea and what he is doing in the Ukraine. I think he is really regretting the decline of his economy. And I think what he is trying to do now is save some face.
(SANDERS) But I think when Russians get killed in Syria and when he gets bogged down, I think the Russian people are going to give him a message that maybe they should come home, maybe they should start working with the United States to rectify the situation now.
(COOPER) Secretary Clinton, on the campaign trail, Governor Webb has said that he would never have used military force in Libya and that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was inevitable. Should you have seen that attack coming?
(CLINTON) Well, lets remember what was going on. We had a murderous dictator, Gadhafi, who had American blood on his hands, as Im sure you remember, threatening to massacre large numbers of the Libyan people.
(CLINTON) We had our closest allies in Europe burning up the phone lines begging us to help them try to prevent what they saw as a mass genocide, in their words. And we had the Arabs standing by our side saying, We want you to help us deal with Gadhafi.
(CLINTON) Our response, which I think was smart power at its best, is that the United States will not lead this. We will provide essential, unique capabilities that we have, but the Europeans and the Arabs had to be first over the line. We did not put one single American soldier on the ground in Libya. And Ill say this for the Libyan people...
(CLINTON) But let -- Ill get to that. But I think its important, since I understand Senator Webbs very strong feelings about this, to explain where we were then and to point out that I think President Obama made the right decision at the time.
(CLINTON) And the Libyan people had a free election the first time since 1951. And you know what, they voted for moderates, they voted with the hope of democracy. Because of the Arab Spring, because of a lot of other things, there was turmoil to be followed.
(CLINTON) But unless you believe the United States should not send diplomats to any place that is dangerous, which I do not, then when we send them forth, there is always the potential for danger and risk.
(OMALLEY) Anderson, I think theres lessons to be learned from Benghazi. And those lessons are that we need to do a much better job as a nation of having human intelligence on the ground so that we know who the emerging next generation leaders are that are coming up to replace a dictator when his time on this planet ends.
(OMALLEY) And I believe thats what Chris Stevens was trying to do. But he did not have the tools. We have failed as a country to invest in the human intelligence that would allow us to make not only better decisions in Libya, but better decisions in Syria today.And its a huge national security failing.
(WEBB) This is not about Benghazi per se. To me it is the inevitability of something like Benghazi occurring in the way that we intervened in Libya. We had no treaties at risk. We had no Americans at risk. There was no threat of attack or imminent attack.
(WEBB) There is plenty of time for a president to come to the Congress and request authority to use military force in that situation. I called for it on the Senate floor again and again. I called for it in Senate hearings.
(COOPER) Secretary (sic) Webb, you served in Vietnam. Youre a marine. Once a marine, always a marine. You served as a marine in Vietnam. Youre a decorated war hero. You eventually became secretary of the navy.
(WEBB) Everybody makes their decisions when the time there is conscription. And as long as they go through the legal process that our country requires, I respect that. And it would be for the voters to decide whether Senator Sanders or anyone else should be president.
(WEBB) I will say this, coming from the position that Ive come from, from a military family, with my brother a marine, my son was a marine in Iraq, I served as a marine, spending five years in the Pentagon, I am comfortable that I am the most qualified person standing up here today to be your commander-in-chief.
(SANDERS) Jim and I, under Jims leadership, as he indicated, passed the most significant veterans education bill in recent history. We followed suit with a few years later passing, under my leadership, the most significant veterans health care legislation in the modern history of this country.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) When I was a young man -- Im not a young man today. When I was a young man, I strongly opposed the war in Vietnam. Not the brave men like Jim who fought in that war, but the policy which got us involved in that war. That was my view then.(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) I am not a pacifist, Anderson. I supported the war in Afghanistan. I supported President Clintons effort to deal with ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. I support air strikes in Syria and what the president is trying to do.
(SANDERS) Yes, I happen to believe from the bottom of my heart that war should be the last resort that we have got to exercise diplomacy. But yes, I am prepared to take this country into war if that is necessary.(CROSSTALK)
(CHAFEE) OK. I just have to answer one thing that Senator Webb said about the Iran deal, because Im a strong proponent of what President Obama -- and he said that because of that the Iran deal that enabled Russia to come in.
(CHAFEE) No, thats not true, Senator Webb. I respect your foreign policy chops. But Russia is aligned with Iran and with Assad and the Alawite Shias in Syria. So that Iran deal did not allow Russia to come in.
(WEBB) I believe that the signal that we sent to the region when the Iran nuclear deal was concluded was that we are accepting Irans greater position on this very important balance of power, among our greatest ally Israel, and the Sunnis represented by the Saudi regime, and Iran. It was a position of weakness and I think it encouraged the acts that weve seen in the past several weeks.
(COOPER & OMALLEY) COOPER: Governor OMALLEY?OMALLEY: I believe that nuclear Iran remains the biggest threat, along with the threat of ISIL; climate change, of course, makes cascading threats even worse.
(CLINTON) I -- I think it has to be continued threat from the spread of nuclear weapons, nuclear material that can fall into the wrong hands. I know the terrorists are constantly seeking it, and thats why we have to stay vigilant, but also united around the world to prevent that.
(SANDERS) The scientific community is telling us that if we do not address the global crisis of climate change, transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to sustainable energy, the planet that were going to be leaving our kids and our grandchildren may well not be habitable. That is a major crisis.
(COOPER & WEBB) COOPER: Senator Webb?WEBB: Our greatest long-term strategic challenge is our relation with China. Our greatest day-to-day threat is cyber warfare against this country. Our greatest military-operational threat is resolving the situations in the Middle East.
(COOPER) We begin with Secretary Clinton. Secretary Clinton, you are going to be testifying before Congress next week about your e-mails. For the last eight months, you havent been able to put this issue behind you. You dismissed it; you joked about it; you called it a mistake. What does that say about your ability to handle far more challenging crises as president?
(CLINTON) And I have been as transparent as I know to be, turning over 55,000 pages of my e-mails, asking that they be made public. And youre right. I am going to be testifying. Ive been asking to testify for some time and to do it in public, which was not originally agreed to.
(CLINTON) It is a partisan vehicle, as admitted by the House Republican majority leader, Mr. McCarthy, to drive down my poll numbers. Big surprise. And thats what they have attempted to do.I am still standing. I am happy to be part of this debate.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) And I intend to keep talking about the issues that matter to the American people. You know, I believe strongly that we need to be talking about what people talk to me about, like how are we going to make college affordable? How are we going to pay down student debt?
(COOPER) Secretary Clinton, Secretary Clinton, with all due respect, its a little hard -- I mean, isnt it a little bit hard to call this just a partisan issue? Theres an FBI investigation, and President Obama himself just two days ago said this is a legitimate issue.
(CLINTON) Well, I never said it wasnt legitimate. I said that I have answered all the questions and I will certainly be doing so again before this committee. But I think it would be really unfair not to look at the entire picture.
(CLINTON) This committee has spent $4.5 million of taxpayer money, and they said that they were trying to figure out what we could do better to protect our diplomats so that something like Benghazi wouldnt happen again. There were already seven committee reports about what to do. So I think its pretty clear what their obvious goal is.
(COOPER& CLINTON & SANDERS) COOPER: Thank you.CLINTON: But Ill be there. Ill answer their questions. But tonight, I want to talk not about my e-mails, but about what the American people want from the next president of the United States.(APPLAUSE)COOPER: Senator Sanders?SANDERS: Let me say this.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) Let me say -- let me say something that may not be great politics. But I think the secretary is right, and that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) You know? The middle class -- Anderson, and let me say something about the media, as well. I go around the country, talk to a whole lot of people. Middle class in this country is collapsing.
(SANDERS) We have 27 million people living in poverty. We have massive wealth and income inequality. Our trade policies have cost us millions of decent jobs. The American people want to know whether were going to have a democracy or an oligarchy as a result of Citizens Union. Enough of the e-mails. Lets talk about the real issues facing America.(APPLAUSE)
(COOPER) I know that plays well in this room. But I got to be honest, Governor Chafee, for the record, on the campaign trail, youve said a different thing. You said this is a huge issue. Standing here in front of Secretary Clinton, are you willing to say that to her face?
(CHAFEE) Absolutely. We have to repair American credibility after we told the world that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, which he didnt. So theres an issue of American credibility out there.
(CHAFEE) So any time someone is running to be our leader, and a world leader, which the American president is, credibility is an issue out there with the world. And we have repair work to be done. I think we need someone that has the best in ethical standards as our next president. Thats how I feel.
(COOPER) Governor -- Governor...(APPLAUSE)Governor OMALLEY...(APPLAUSE)Governor, its popular in the room, but a lot of people do want to know these answers.Governor OMALLEY, you expressed concern on the campaign trail that the Democratic Party is, and I quote, being defined by Hillary Clintons email scandal.You heard her answer, do you still feel that way tonight?
(OMALLEY) I believe that now that were finally having debates, Anderson, that we dont have to be defined by the email scandal, and how long -- what the FBIs asking about. Instead, we can talk about affordable college, making college debt free, and all the issues.
(OMALLEY) Which is why -- and I see the chair of the DNC here, look how glad we are actually to be talking about the issues that matter the most to people around the kitchen table.We need to get wages to go up, college more affordable...
(LEMON) Alright, Anderson, thank you very much. Im not sure how to follow that, but this question is about something that has tripped some of the candidates up out on the campaign trail. Can you hear me?Cant hear me in the room. OK, here we go again, as I said...
(SANDERS) And the reason -- the reason those words matter is the African American community knows that on any given day some innocent person like Sandra Bland can get into a car, and then three days later shes going to end up dead in jail, (APPLAUSE)
(OMALLEY) Anderson, the point that the Black Lives Matter movement is making is a very, very legitimate and serious point, and that is that as a nation we have undervalued the lives of black lives, people of color.
(OMALLEY) When I ran for Mayor of Baltimore -- and we we burying over 350 young men ever single year, mostly young, and poor, and black, and I said to our legislature, at the time when I appeared in front of them as a mayor, that if we were burying white, young, poor men in these number we would be marching in the streets and there would be a different reaction.
(CLINTON) ...So, what we need to be doing is not only reforming criminal justice -- I have talked about that at some length, including things like body cameras, but we also need to be following the recommendations of the commissioner that President Obama empanelled on policing. There is an agenda there that we need to be following up on.
(CLINTON) Similarly, we need to tackle mass incarceration, and this may be the only bi-partisan issue in the congress this year. We actually have people on both sides of the aisle who have reached the same conclusion, that we can not keep imprisoning more people than anybody else in the world.
(CLINTON) But, I believe that the debate, and the discussion has to go further, Anderson, because weve got to do more about the lives of these children. Thats why I started off by saying we need to be committed to making it possible for every child to live up to his or her god given potential. That is...
(COOPER & CLINTON) COOPER: ...Thank you, Senator...CLINTON: ...really hard to do if you dont have early childhood education...COOPER: Senator...CLINTON: ...if you dont have schools that are able to meet the needs of the people, or good housing, theres a long list...(APPLAUSE)CLINTON: ...We need a new New Deal for communities of color...COOPER: Senator Webb?
(WEBB) I hope I can get that kind of time here. As a President of the United States, every life in this country matters. At the same time, I believe I can say to you, I have had a long history of working with the situation of African Americans.
(WEBB) Were talking about criminal justice reform, I risked my political life raising the issue of criminal justice reform when I ran for the Senate in Virginia in 2006. I had democratic party political consultants telling me I was committing political suicide.
(WEBB) I also represented a so-called war criminal, an African American Marine who was wounded -- who was convicted of murder in Vietnam, for six years. He took his life three years into this. I cleared his name after -- after three years.
(COOPER & WEBB) COOPER: Thanks, sir.WEBB: And I put the African American soldier on the Mall. I made that recommendation and fought for it. So, if you want someone who is -- can stand up in front of you right now and say I have done the hard job, I have taken the risks, I am your person.
(COOPER) Senator Sanders, lets talk about income inequality. Wages and incomes are flat. Youve argued that the gap between rich and poor is wider than at any time since the 1920s. Weve had a Democratic president for seven years. What are you going to be able to do that President Obama didnt?
(SANDERS) Well, first of all, lets remember where we were when Bush left office. We were losing 800,000 jobs a month. And I know my Republican friends seem to have some amnesia on this issue, but the worlds financial crisis was on -- the worlds financial markets system was on the verge of collapse. Thats where we were.
(SANDERS) And in my view what we need to do is create millions of jobs by rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure; raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour; pay equity for women workers; and our disastrous trade policies, which have cost us millions of jobs; and make every public college and university in this country tuition free.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) Well, you know, both Bill and I have been very blessed. Neither of us came from wealthy families and weve worked really hard our entire lives. And I want to make sure every single person in this country has the same opportunities that he and I have had, to make the most of their God-given potential and to have the chances that they should have in America for a good education, good job training, and then good jobs.
(CLINTON) I have a five point economic plan, because this inequality challenge we face, we have faced it at other points. Its absolutely right. It hasnt been this bad since the 1920s. But if you look at the Republicans versus the Democrats when it comes to economic policy, there is no comparison. The economy does better when you have a Democrat in the White House and thats why we need to have a Democrat in the White House in January 2017.
(OMALLEY) I want to associate myself with many of the items that the senator from Vermont mentioned, and I actually did them in our state. We raised the minimum wage, passed the living wage, invested more in infrastructure, went four years in a row without a pennys increase in college tuition.
(OMALLEY) But theres another piece that Senator Sanders left out tonight, but hes been excellent about underscoring that. And that is that we need to separate the casino, speculative, mega-bank gambling that we have to insure with our money, from the commercial banking -- namely, reinstating Glass-Steagall.
(OMALLEY) Secretary Clinton mentioned my support eight years ago. And Secretary, I was proud to support you eight years ago, but something happened in between, and that is, Anderson, a Wall Street crash that wiped out millions of jobs and millions of savings for families. And we are still just as vulnerable Paul Volcker says today.
(COOPER) Just for viewers at home who may not be reading up on this, Glass-Steagall is the Depression-era banking law repealed in 1999 that prevented commercial banks from engaging in investment banking and insurance activities.
(COOPER) Secretary Clinton, he raises a fundamental difference on this stage. Senator Sanders wants to break up the big Wall Street banks. You dont. You say charge the banks more, continue to monitor them. Why is your plan better?
(CLINTON) Well, my plan is more comprehensive. And frankly, its tougher because of course we have to deal with the problem that the banks are still too big to fail. We can never let the American taxpayer and middle class families ever have to bail out the kind of speculative behavior that we saw.
(CLINTON) But we also have to worry about some of the other players -- AIG, a big insurance company; Lehman Brothers, an investment bank. Theres this whole area called shadow banking. Thats where the experts tell me the next potential problem could come from.
(CLINTON) So Im with both Senator Sanders and Governor OMALLEY in putting a lot of attention onto the banks. And the plan that I have put forward would actually empower regulators to break up big banks if we thought they posed a risk. But I want to make sure were going to cover everybody, not what caused the problem last time, but what could cause it next time.
(SANDERS) Let us be clear that the greed and recklessness and illegal behavior of Wall Street, where fraud is a business model, helped to destroy this economy and the lives of millions of people.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) Check the record. In the 1990s -- and all due respect -- in the 1990s, when I had the Republican leadership and Wall Street spending billions of dollars in lobbying, when the Clinton administration, when Alan Greenspan said, what a great idea it would be to allow these huge banks to merge, Bernie Sanders fought them, and helped lead the opposition to deregulation.(APPLAUSE)
(COOPER & SANDERS) SANDERS: Today, it is my view that when you have the three...COOPER: Senator...SANDERS: ...largest banks in America -- are much bigger than they were when we bailed them out for being too big to fail, we have got to break them up.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) Yeah.You know, I -- I respect the passion an intensity. I represented Wall Street, as a senator from New York, and I went to Wall Street in December of 2007 -- before the big crash that we had -- and I basically said, cut it out! Quit foreclosing on homes! Quit engaging in these kinds of speculative behaviors.
(CLINTON) I took on the Bush administration for the same thing. So I have thought deeply and long about what were gonna do to do exactly what I think both the senator and the governor want, which is to rein in and stop this risk.
(SANDERS) Ill tell him.In my view, Secretary Clinton, you do not -- Congress does not regulate Wall Street. Wall Street regulates Congress.(APPLAUSE)And we have gotta break off these banks. Going to them...
(CLINTON& SANDERS & WEBB ) CLINTON: So...SANDERS: ...and saying, please, do the right thing...CLINTON: ...no, thats not what...SANDERS: ...is kind of naive.CLINTON: ...that -- I think Dodd-Frank was a very...WEBB: Anderson, I need to jump in (inaudible).
(CLINTON) ...good start, and I think that we have to implement it. We have to prevent the Republicans from ripping it apart. We have to save the Consumer Financial Protection board, which is finally beginning to act to protect consumers.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) We have work to do. Youve got no argument from me. But I know, if we dont come in with a very tough and comprehensive approach, like the plan Im recommending, were gonna be behind instead of ahead...
(OMALLEY) Anderson, look, this is -- the big banks -- I mean, once we repealed Glass-Steagall back in the late 1999s (ph), the big banks, the six of them, went from controlling, what, the equivalent of 15 percent of our GDP to now 65 percent of our GDP.
(OMALLEY) And -- (inaudible) right before this debate, Secretary Clintons campaign put out a lot of reversals on positions on Keystone and many other things. But one of them that we still have a great difference on, Madam Secretary, is that you are not for Glass-Steagall.
(OMALLEY) You are not for putting a firewall between this speculative, risky shadow banking behavior. I am, and the people of our country need a president whos on their side, willing to protect the Main Street economy from recklessness on Wall Street.We have to fulfill...
(CLINTON) But I have been on the forefront of dealing with climate change, starting in 2009, when President Obama and I crashed (ph) a meeting with the Chinese and got them to sign up to the first international agreement to combat climate change that theyd ever joined.
(COOPER) Senator Sanders...(APPLAUSE)Senator Sanders, in 2008, congressional leaders were told, without the 2008 bailout, the U.S. was possibly days away from a complete meltdown. Despite that, you still voted against it.As president, would you stand by your principles if it risked the countrys financial stability?
(SANDERS) Well, I remember that meeting very well. I remember it like it was yesterday. Hank Paulson, Bernanke came in, and they say, guys, the economy is going to collapse because Wall Street is going under. Its gonna take the economy with them.
(SANDERS) And you know what I said to Hank Paulson? I said, Hank, your guys -- you come from Goldman Sachs. Your millionaire and billionaire friends caused this problem. How about your millionaire and billionaire friends paying for the bailout, not working families in this country?
(SANDERS) So to answer your question, no, I would not have let the economy collapse. But it was wrong to ask the middle class to bail out Wall Street. And by the way, I want Wall Street now to help kids in this country go to college, public colleges and universities, free with a Wall Street speculation tax.(APPLAUSE)
(WEBB) And let me just go back a minute and say that on this TARP program, I introduced a piece of legislation calling for a windfall profits tax on the executives of any of these companies that got more than $5 billion, that it was time for them, once they got their compensation and their bonus, to split the rest of the money they made with the nurses and the truck drivers and the soldiers who bailed them out.
(WEBB) With respect to the financial sector, I mean, I know that my time has run out but in speaking of changing positions and the position on how this debate has occurred is kind of frustrating because unless somebody mentions my name I cant get into the discussion.
(WEBB) But if you want to look at what has happened, if we look at the facts in terms of how were going to deal with this, since that crash, in the last 10 years, the amount of the worlds capital economy that Wall Street manages has gone from 44 percent to 55 percent.
(WEBB) That means the Wall Street money managers are not risking themselves as the same way the American people are when theyre going to get their compensation. Theyre managing money from all over the world.We have to take that into consideration when were looking at ways to regulate it.
(COOPER & CHAFEE) COOPER: Well, with all due respect, Governor...CHAFEE: But let me just say...COOPER: ... what does that say about you that youre casting a vote for something you werent really sure about?
(CHAFEE) I think youre being a little rough. Id just arrived at the United States Senate. Id been mayor of my city. My dad had died. Id been appointed by the governor. It was the first vote and it was 90-5, because it was a conference report.
(CHAFEE) But let me just say about income inequality. Weve had a lot of talk over the last few minutes, hours, or tens of minutes, but no one is saying how were going to fix it. And it all started with the Bush tax cuts that favored the wealthy.
(CHAFEE) So lets go back to the tax code. And 0.6 percent of Americans are at the top echelon, over 464,000, 0.6 Americans. Thats less than 1 percent. But they generate 30 percent of the revenue. And theyre doing fine.
(COOPER & CHAFEE) COOPER: Thank you, Governor.CHAFEE: So theres still a lot more money to be had from this top echelon. Im saying lets have another tier and put that back into the tax bracket. And that will generate $42 billion.
(BASH) Senator Sanders, youve mentioned a couple of times you do have a plan to make public colleges free for everyone. Secretary Clinton has criticized that in saying shes not in favor of making a college free for Donald Trumps kids.
(SANDERS) Well, let me tell you, Donald Trump and his billionaire friends under my policies are going to pay a hell of a lot more in taxes today -- taxes in the future than theyre paying today.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) And what we said 50 years ago and a hundred years ago is that every kid in this country should be able to get a high school education regardless of the income of their family. I think we have to say that is true for everybody going to college.
(SANDERS) I pay for my program, by the way, through a tax on Wall Street speculation, which will not only make public colleges and universities tuition-free, it will substantially lower interest rates on college debt, a major crisis in this country.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) Well, let me address college affordability, because I have a plan that I think will really zero in on what the problems are. First, all the 40 million Americans who currently have student debt will be able to refinance their debt to a low interest rate.
(CLINTON) That will save thousands of dollars for people who are now struggling under this cumbersome, burdensome college debt.As a young student in Nevada said to me, the hardest thing about going to college should not be paying for it.
(CLINTON) So then we have to make it more affordable. How do we make it more affordable? My plan would enable anyone to go to a public college or university tuition free. You would not have to borrow money for tuition.
(CLINTON) But I do believe -- and maybe its because I worked when I went through college; I worked when I went through law school -- I think its important for everybody to have some part of getting this accomplished. Thats why I call it a compact.
(BASH) Secretary Clinton, the question was not just about tuition, though. It was about Senator Sanders plan to expand Social Security, to make Medicare available to all Americans. Is that something that you would support? And if not, why not?
(BASH & CLINTON) BASH: Do you want to expand it?CLINTON: I want to enhance the benefits for the poorest recipients of Social Security. We have a lot of women on Social Security, particularly widowed and single women who didnt make a lot of money during their careers, and they are impoverished, and they need more help from the Social Security system.
(CLINTON) And I will focus -- I will focus on helping those people who need it the most. And of course Im going to defend Social Security. Im going to look for ways to try to make sure its solvent into the future.
(SANDERS) When the Republicans -- when the Republicans in the Congress and some Democrats were talking about cutting Social Security and benefits for disabled veterans, for the so-called chained CPI, I founded a caucus called the Defending Social Security Caucus.
(SANDERS) My view is that when you have millions of seniors in this country trying to get by -- and I dont know how they do on $11,000, $12,000, $13,000 a year -- you dont cut Social Security, you expand it.
(SANDERS) And the way you expand it is by lifting the cap on taxable incomes so that you do away with the absurdity of a millionaire paying the same amount into the system as somebody making $118,000. You do that, Social Security is solvent until 2061 and you can expand benefits.
(COOPER) Senator Sanders, I want to bring it over to Juan Carlos Lopez from CNN en Espanol. Were obviously in Nevada. Its had the highest percentage of undocumented immigrants of any state in the country as of last year. Juan Carlos?
(LOPEZ) Gracias, Anderson. Senator Sanders, in 2013, you voted for immigration reform. But in 2007, when Democrats controlled Congress and the Bush White House was onboard, you voted against it. Why should Latino voters trust you now when you left them at the altar at the moment when reform was very close?
(SANDERS) I didnt leave anybody at the altar. I voted against that piece of legislation because it had guest-worker provisions in it which the Southern Poverty Law Center talked about being semi-slavery.
(SANDERS) Guest workers are coming in, theyre working under terrible conditions, but if they stand up for their rights, theyre thrown out of the country. I was not the only progressive to vote against that legislation for that reason. Tom Harkin, a very good friend of Hillary Clintons and mine, one of the leading labor advocates, also voted against that.
(SANDERS) ...point being is that progressives did vote against that for that reason. My view right now -- and always has been -- is that when you have 11 million undocumented people in this country, we need comprehensive immigration reform, we need a path toward citizenship, we need to take people out of the shadows.
(LOPEZ) Secretary Clinton -- Secretary Clinton, Governor OMALLEY wants to open up Obamacare to millions of undocumented immigrants and their children, including almost 90,000 people right here in Nevada. Do you?
(CLINTON) Well, first of all, I want to make sure every child gets health care. Thats why I helped to create the Childrens Health Insurance Program, and I want to support states that are expanding health care and including undocumented children and others.
(CLINTON) I want to open up the opportunity for immigrants to be able to buy in to the exchanges under the Affordable Care Act. I think to go beyond that, as I understand what Governor OMALLEY has recommended, so that they would get the same subsidies.
(OMALLEY) We need to understand that our country is stronger in every generation by the arrival of new American immigrants. That is why I have put out a policy for comprehensive immigration reform, that is why I would go further than President Obama has on DACA, and DAPA.
(OMALLEY) I mean, we are a nation of immigrants, we are made stronger by immigrants. Do you think for a second that simply because somebodys standing in a broken que on naturalization theyre not going to go to the hospital, and that care isnt going to fall on to our insurance rates? I am for a generous, compassionate America that says were all in this together. We need comprehensive
(WEBB) I wouldnt have a problem with that. Let me start by saying my wife is an immigrant. She was a refugee, her family escaped from Vietnam on a boat-- her entire extended family, after the communists took over, when hundreds of thousands of people were out there and thousands of them were dying.
(WEBB) Went to two refugee camps, she never spoke English in her home, and she ended, as I said, graduating from Cornell Law School. Thats not only American dream, thats a value that we have with a good immigration system in place. No country has -- is a country without defining its borders. We need to resolve this issue. I actually introduced an amendment in the 2007 immigration bill...
(COOPER & WEBB) COOPER: ...Thank you, Senator.WEBB: ...lost (ph) -- I introduced that in 2007 -- We need a comprehensive reform, and we need to be able to define our borders.COOPER: Secretary Clinton?
(CLINTON & OMALLEY) CLINTON: I want to follow up because I think underneath Juan Carlos important questions, there is such a difference between everything youre hearing here on this stage, and what we hear from the Republicans.(APPLAUSE)OMALLEY: Here. Here.(CHEERING) (APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON & COOPER ) CLINTON: Demonize hard-working immigrants who have insulted them. You know, I came to Las Vegas in, I think, May. Early may. Met with a group of DREAMers, I wish everybody in America could meet with this young people, to hear their stories, to know their incredible talent, their determination, and thats why I would go further...COOPER: ...Secretary...CLINTON: ...than even the executive orders that President Obama has signed when Im president.(CROSS TALK)
(COOPER) Secretary Clinton, let me ask you. Two of your rivals from your left, Governor OMALLEY, and Senator Sanders, want to provide instate college tuition to undocumented immigrants. Where do you stand on that?
(COOPER & OMALLEY) COOPER: Governor OMALLEY?OMALLEY: Anderson, we actually did this in my state of Maryland. We passed...(APPLAUSE)OMALLEY: We passed a state version of the DREAM Act...(CHEERING)OMALLEY: ...And a lot of the xenophobes, the immigrant haters like some that weve heard like, Donald Trump, that carnival barker in the Republican party...(CHEERING) (APPLAUSE)
(COOPER & OMALLEY) OMALLEY: Tried to mischaracterize it as free tuition for illegal immigrants. But, we took our case to the people when it was petitioned to referendum, and we won with 58 percent of the vote. The more our children learn, the more they will earn, and thats true of children who have yet to be naturalized...COOPER: ...Senator...OMALLEY: ...but will become American citizens...
(COOPER) Senator Sanders, you talked about your record on the Veteran affairs committee. You served on that committee for the last eight years, including two years as its chairman while veterans died waiting for health care. You and Senator McCain ultimately addressed the issue with bi-partisan legislation. Why did it take 18 Inspector General reports, and a CNN investigation, and others, before you and your colleagues took action?
(SANDERS) Well, I was chairman for two years, and when I was chairman we did take action. What we did is pass a $15 billion dollar piece of legislation which brought in many, many new doctors, and nurses into the V.A. so that veterans in this country could get the health care when they needed it, and not be on long waiting lines.
(SANDERS) And, the other part of that legislation said that if a veteran is living more than 40 miles away from a V.A. facility, that veteran could get health care from the community health center, or the private sector. As a result of that legislation, we went further in than any time in recent history in improving health care for the men and women of this country who put their lives on the line to defend us.
(COOPER) Governor Chafee, you and Hillary Clinton both voted for the Patriot Act which created the NSA surveillance program. Youve emphasized civil liberties, privacy during your campaign. Arent these two things in conflict?
(CHAFEE) No, that was another 99 to one vote for the Patriot Act, and it was seen as at the time modernizing our ability to do what weve always done to tap phones which always required a warrant. And I voted for that.
(COOPER & CHAFEE) COOPER: Do you regret that vote?CHAFEE: No, no. As long as youre getting a warrant, I believe that under the Fourth Amendment, you should be able to do surveillance, but you need a warrant. Thats what the Fourth Amendment says. And in the Patriot Act, section 215 started to get broadened too far. So I would be in favor of addressing and reforming section 215 of the Patriot Act.
(CLINTON) What happened, however, is that the Bush administration began to chip away at that process. And I began to speak out about their use of warrantless surveillance and the other behavior that they engaged in.
(COOPER) COOPER: Senator -- Senator Sanders, youre the only one on this stage who voted against the Patriot Act in 2001...(APPLAUSE)SANDERS: It was 99 to one and I was maybe the one. I dont know.COOPER: ... and the reauthorization votes. Let me ask you, if elected, would you shut down the NSA surveillance program?
(SANDERS) Well, I would shut down -- make -- Id shut down what exists right now is that virtually every telephone call in this country ends up in a file at the NSA. That is unacceptable to me. But its not just government surveillance. I think the government is involved in our e-mails; is involved in our websites. Corporate America is doing it as well.
(SANDERS) If we are a free country, we have the right to be free. Yes, we have to defend ourselves against terrorism, but there are ways to do that without impinging on our constitutional rights and our privacy rights.
(CHAFEE) ... the American government was acting illegally. Thats what the federal courts have said; what Snowden did showed that the American government was acting illegally for the Fourth Amendment. So I would bring him home.
(CLINTON) He broke the laws of the United States. He could have been a whistleblower. He could have gotten all of the protections of being a whistleblower. He could have raised all the issues that he has raised. And I think there would have been a positive response to that.
(COOPER & CLINTON) COOPER: Should he do jail time?ClINTON: In addition -- in addition, he stole very important information that has unfortunately fallen into a lot of the wrong hands. So I dont think he should be brought home without facing the music.
(OMALLEY & COOPER) COOPER: Governor OMALLEY, Snowden?(APPLAUSE)OMALLEY: Anderson, Snowden put a lot of Americans lives at risk. Snowden broke the law. Whistleblowers do not run to Russia and try to get protection from Putin. If he really believes that, he should be back here.
(COOPER & SANDERS) COOPER: Senator Sanders, Edward Snowden?SANDERS: I think Snowden played a very important role in educating the American people to the degree in which our civil liberties and our constitutional rights are being undermined.
(COOPER & SANDERS) COOPER: Is he a hero?SANDERS: He did -- he did break the law, and I think there should be a penalty to that. But I think what he did in educating us should be taken into consideration before he is (inaudible).COOPER: Senator Webb, Edward Snowden?
(WEBB) And one of the things that I did during the FISA bill in 2007, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, was introduce with Russ Feingold two amendments basically saying, We understand the realities of how you have to collect this broad information in the Internet age, but after a certain period of time, you need to destroy the personal information that you have if people have not been brought -- if criminal justice proceedings have not been brought against them.
(CHAFEE) Certainly, ending the wars. Weve got to stop these wars. You have to have a new dynamic, a new paradigm. We just spent a half-billion dollars arming and training soldiers, the rebel soldiers in Syria. They quickly join the other side. We bombed the...(CROSSTALK)
(CHAFEE) Id like to finish my question -- my answer.And also we just bombed a hospital. Weve had drone strikes that hit civilian weddings. So I would change how we -- our approach to the Middle East. We need a new paradigm in the Middle East.
(OMALLEY) I would push to separate out these too-big-to-jail, too-big-to-fail banks, and put in place Glass-Steagall, a modern Glass-Steagall that creates a firewall so that this wreckage of our economy can never happen again.
(CLINTON) And thats in my economic plans, how I would deal with the prescription drug companies, how I would deal with college, how I would deal with a full range of issues that Ive been talking about throughout this campaign to go further.
(SANDERS) But heres where I do disagree. I believe that the power of corporate America, the power of Wall Street, the power of the drug companies, the power of the corporate media is so great that the only way we really transform America and do the things that the middle class and working class desperately need is through a political revolution when millions of people begin to come together and stand up and say: Our government is going to work for all of us, not just a handful of billionaires.(APPLAUSE)
(WEBB) I got a great deal of admiration and affection for Senator Sanders, but I -- Bernie, I dont think the revolutions going to come. And I dont think the Congress is going to pay for a lot of this stuff. And if there would be a major difference between my administration and the Obama administration, it would be in the use of executive authority.
(WEBB) I came up as a committee counsel in the Congress, used to put dozens of bills through the House floor every year as a committee counsel on the Veterans Committee. I have a very strong feeling about how our federal system works and how we need to lead and energize the congressional process instead of allowing these divisions to continue to paralyze what were doing. So I would lead -- working with both parties in the Congress and working through them in the traditional way that our Constitution sets (ph).
(SANDERS) What I mean is that we need to have one of the larger voter turnouts in the world, not one of the lowest. We need to raise public consciousness. We need the American people to know whats going on in Washington in a way that today they do not know.(APPLAUSE)
(OMALLEY) Anderson, I actually have talked about a revolution. What we need is a green energy revolution. We need to move America to a 100 percent clean electric grid by 2050 and create 5 million jobs along the way.
(COOPER) And we want to -- and were going to talk more about climate change and environmental issues coming up. Some of the candidates have tried marijuana, as have pretty much -- probably everybody in this room.(LAUGHTER)Others have not. Does that influence -- does it influence their views on legalization? Find out that and others ahead.
(COOPER) And welcome back to this CNN Democratic presidential debate. It has been quite a night so far. We are in the final block of this debate. All the candidates are back, which Im very happy to see.(LAUGHTER)
(COOPER) Thats right. Secretary Clinton, Governor OMALLEY says the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth between two royal families. This year has been the year of the outsider in politics, just ask Bernie Sanders. Why should Democrats embrace an insider like yourself?
(CLINTON) And I know what it takes to get things done. I know how to find common ground and I know how to stand my ground. And I think were going to need both of those in Washington to get anything that were talking about up here accomplished.
(OMALLEY) Well, actually, you know, we had this conversation. And I will share with you that Ive traveled all around the country, Anderson, and theres two phrases I keep hearing again and again and again. And theyre the phrases new leadership and getting things done.
(OMALLEY) We cannot be this dissatisfied with our gridlocked national politics and an economy where 70 percent of us are earning the same or less than we were 12 years ago, and think that a resort to old names is going to move us forward.
(CLINTON) Well, I would not ask anyone to vote for me based on my last name. I would ask them to listen to what Im proposing, look at what Ive accomplished in the Senate, as secretary of of state, and then draw your own conclusion.
(CLINTON) I certainly am not campaigning to become president because my last name is Clinton. Im campaigning because I think I have the right combination of what the country needs, at this point, and I think I can take the fight to the Republicans, because we cannot afford a Republican to succeed Barack Obama as president of the United States.
(SANDERS) I think -- I think that there is profound frustration all over this country with establishment politics. I am the only candidate running for president who is not a billionaire, who has raised substantial sums of money, and I do not have a super PAC.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) I am not raising money from millionaires and billionaires, and in fact, tonight, in terms of what a political revolution is about, there are 4,000 house parties -- 100,000 people in this country -- watching this debate tonight who want real change in this country.
(OMALLEY) So I put forward the plan that would extend the investor tax credits for solar and for wind. If you go across Iowa, you see that 30 percent of their energy now comes from wind. Were here in Las Vegas, one of the most sustainable cities in America, doing important things in terms of green building, architecture and design.
(OMALLEY) We can get there as a nation, but its going to require presidential leadership. And as president, I intend to sign as my very first order in office the -- an order that moves us as a nation and dedicates our resources to solving this problem and moving us to a 100 percent clean electric grid by 2050.
(COOPER) Senator Webb, you have a very different view than just about anybody else on this stage, and unlike a lot of Democrats. Youre pro-coal, youre pro-offshore drilling, youre pro-Keystone pipeline. Are -- again, are you -- the question is, are you out of step with the Democratic party?
(WEBB) And when I was in the Senate, I was an all-of-the-above energy voter. We introduced legislation to bring in alternate energy as well as nuclear power. Im a strong proponent of nuclear power. It is safe, it is clean. And really, we are not going to solve climate change simply with the laws here.
(WEBB) Weve done a good job in this country since 1970. If you look at China and India, theyre the greatest polluters in the world. Fifteen out of the 20 most polluted cities in the world are in one of those two countries.
(WEBB) We need to solve this in a global way. Its a global problem and I have been very strong on -- on doing that. The -- the agreements -- the so-called agreements that we have had with China are illusory in terms of the immediate requirements of the -- of the Chinese government itself.
(SANDERS) And let me also tell you that nothing is gonna happen unless we are prepared to deal with campaign finance reform, because the fossil fuel industry is funding the Republican Party, which denies the reality of climate change...(APPLAUSE)...and certainly is not prepared to go forward aggressively.This is a moral issue. We have got to be extremely aggressive in working with China, India, Russia.
(CLINTON) Well, that -- thats exactly what Ive been doing. When we met in Copenhagen in 2009 and, literally, President Obama and I were hunting for the Chinese, going throughout this huge convention center, because we knew we had to get them to agree to something. Because there will be no effective efforts against climate change unless China and India join with the rest of the world.
(CLINTON) They told us theyd left for the airport; we found out they were having a secret meeting. We marched up, we broke in, we said, Weve been looking all over for you. Lets sit down and talk about what we need to do.
(CLINTON) Now, it needs to go further, and there will be an international meeting at the end of this year, and we must get verifiable commitments to fight climate change from every country gathered there.
(CLINTON & BASH) CLINTON: Mm-hmm.BASH: Carly Fiorina, the first female CEO of a Fortune 50 company, argues, if the government requires paid leave, it will force small businesses to, quote, hire fewer people and create fewer jobs.
(CLINTON) Well, but all -- well, on a state level, a state as big as many countries in the world. And it has not had the ill effects that the Republicans are always saying it will have. And I think this is -- this is typical Republican scare tactics. We can design a system and pay for it that does not put the burden on small businesses.
(CLINTON) I remember as a young mother, you know, having a baby wake up who was sick and Im supposed to be in court, because I was practicing law. I know what its like. And I think we need to recognize the incredible challenges that so many parents face, particularly working moms.
(CLINTON) I see my good friend, Senator Gillibrand, in the front row. Shes been a champion of this. We need to get a consensus through this campaign, which is why Im talking about it everywhere I go, and we need to join the rest of the advanced world in having it.
(BASH) But Secretary -- Secretary Clinton, even many people who agree with you might say, look, this is very hard to do, especially in todays day and age. There are so many people who say, Really? Another government program? Is that what youre proposing? And at the expense of taxpayer money?
(CLINTON) They dont mind having big government to interfere with a womans right to choose and to try to take down Planned Parenthood. Theyre fine with big government when it comes to that. Im sick of it.(APPLAUSE)You know, we can do these things.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) We should not be paralyzed -- we should not be paralyzed by the Republicans and their constant refrain, big government this, big government that, that except for what they want to impose on the American people. I know we can afford it, because were going to make the wealthy pay for it. That is the way to get it done.
(SANDERS) Yeah, Dana, heres the point: Every other major country on Earth, every one, including some small countries, say that when a mother has a baby, she should stay home with that baby. We are the only major country. That is an international embarrassment that we do not provide family -- paid family and medical leave.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) Second of all, the secretary is right. Republicans tell us we cant do anything except give tax breaks to billionaires and cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Thats not what the American people want.
(OMALLEY) Look, the genius of our nation is that we find ways in every generation to include more of our people more fully in the economic life of our country, and we need to do that for our families, and especially so that women arent penalized in having to drop out of the workforce.
(OMALLEY) My wife, Katie, is here with our four kids. And, man, that was a juggle when we had little kids and -- and keeping jobs and moving forwards. We would be a stronger nation economically if we had paid family leave.
(LOPEZ) Thank you, Anderson.Senator Sanders, right here in Nevada, there will be a measure to legalize recreational marijuana on the 2016 ballot. Youve said you smoked marijuana twice; it didnt quite work for you. If you were a Nevada resident, how would you vote?
(SANDERS) We have a criminal justice system that lets CEOs on Wall Street walk away, and yet we are imprisoning or giving jail sentences to young people who are smoking marijuana. I think we have to think through this war on drugs...(APPLAUSE)
(LOPEZ) When asked about legalizing recreational marijuana, you told her lets wait and see how it plays out in Colorado and Washington. Its been more than a year since youve said that. Are you ready to take a position tonight?
(CLINTON) No. I think that we have the opportunity through the states that are pursuing recreational marijuana to find out a lot more than we know today. I do support the use of medical marijuana, and I think even there we need to do a lot more research so that we know exactly how were going to help people for whom medical marijuana provides reliefs.
(CLINTON) So, I think were just at the beginning, but I agree completely with the idea that we have got to stop imprisoning people who use marijuana. Therefore, we need more states, cities, and the federal government to begin to address this so that we dont have this terrible result that Senator Sanders was talking about where we have a huge population in our prisons for nonviolent, low-level offenses that are primarily due to marijuana.
(LEMON) Alright, Anderson. This is for Senator Sanders, OK? This is from Carrie (ph) Kang (ph) from Manassas, Virginia, would like would like to ask the Senator, President Obama has had a difficult time getting Republicans to compromise on just about every agenda. How will you approach this going forward, and will it be any different?Senator?
(SANDERS) The Republican party, since Ive been in the Senate, and since President Obama has been in office, has played a terrible, terrible role of being total obstructionists. Every effort that he has made, that some of us have made, they have said no, no, no.
(SANDERS) Now, in my view, the only way we can take on the right wing republicans who are, by the way, I hope will not continue to control the Senate and the House when one of us elected President...(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) ...But the only way we can get things done is by having millions of people coming together. If we want free tuition at public colleges and universities, millions of young people are going to have to demand it, and give the Republicans an offer they cant refuse.
(SANDERS) If we want to raise the minimum wage to $15 bucks an hour, workers are going to have to come together and look the Republicans in the eye, and say, We know whats going on. You vote against us, you are out of your job.(APPLAUSE)
(COOPER) And welcome back to the final round of the CNN Democratic presidential debate.This is a question to each of you. Each of you, by the way, are going to have closing statements to make. Each of you will have 90 seconds. But a final question to each of you. If you can, just try to -- 15 seconds if you can.
(COOPER) Governor Chafee, Franklin Delano Roosevelt once said, I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made. Youve all made a few people upset over your political careers. Which enemy are you most proud of?(LAUGHTER)
(CHAFEE) I guess the coal lobby. Ive worked hard for climate change and I want to work with the coal lobby. But in my time in the Senate, tried to bring them to the table so that we could address carbon dioxide. Im proud to be at odds with the coal lobby.
(COOPER & SANDERS) COOPER: Senator Sanders?SANDERS: As someone who has taken on probably every special interest that there is in Washington, I would lump Wall Street and the pharmaceutical industry at the top of my life of people who do not like me.(APPLAUSE)
(CHAFEE) America has many challenges confronting us -- ending the perpetual wars, addressing climate change, addressing income inequality, funding education, funding infrastructure, funding healthcare, helping black Americans, helping Native Americans. We have many challenges. Who is best able to confront these challenges?
(CHAFEE) Ive served in government at many levels. I know what its like to solve problems at the local level because I did it as mayor. I know how to get legislation passed through Congress because I did it as a senator. I know how to turn around a state because I did as governor of Rhode Island.
(CHAFEE) But what Im most proud of is that in 30 years of public service, I have had no scandals. I have high ethical standards. And what Im most proud of is my judgment, particularly in the Iraq war vote. There was a lot of pressure -- political pressure, public pressure. But I did my homework and I did not believe that the evidence was there that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. And we live now with the consequences.
(CHAFEE) So that kind of judgment is what we want in a president going forward. And Im running for president to end the wars. I want to be the peacemaker. I am a proven peacemaker. Please go to Chafee 2016 to learn more about me. Thank you.(APPLAUSE)
(WEBB) Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, its been a pleasure to be with you tonight. Youve heard a lot of promises up here; youve heard a lot of rhetoric. They all seem to happen during campaigns, and then once the elections over, people start from scratch again and try to get things done.
(WEBB) One of the things I can promise you, if you look at my record, in and out of government, is that Ive always been willing to take on a complicated, something unpopular issues, and work them through, the complex issues, and work them through in order to have the solution.
(WEBB) We did it with criminal justice reform. Weve had a lot of discussion here about criminal justice reform. We did it in other ways. We need a national political strategy for our economy, for our social policy, for social justice, and, by the way, for how you run and manage the most complex bureaucracy in the world, which is the federal government.
(WEBB) I know how to lead. I did it in Vietnam, I did it in the Pentagon, I did it in the Senate, and if you will help me overcome this cavalcade of -- of financial irregularities and money that is poisoning our political process, I am ready to do that for you in the White House.
(OMALLEY) And what you heard tonight, Anderson, was a very, very -- and all of you watching at home -- was a very, very different debate than from the sort of debate you heard from the two presidential Republican debates.(APPLAUSE)
(OMALLEY) On this stage -- on this stage, you didnt hear anyone denigrate women, you didnt hear anyone make racist comments about new American immigrants, you didnt hear anyone speak ill of another American because of their religious belief.
(OMALLEY) What you heard instead on this stage tonight was an honest search for the answers that will move our country forward, to move us to a 100 percent clean electric energy grid by 2050, to take the actions that we have always taken as Americans
(OMALLEY) so that we can actually attack injustice in our country, employ more of our people, rebuild our cities and towns, educate our children at higher and better levels, and include more of our people in the economic, social, and political life of our country.
(OMALLEY) I truly believe that we are standing on the threshold of a new era of American progress. Unless youve become discouraged about our gridlock in Congress, talk to our young people under 30, because youll never find among them people that want to bash immigrants or people that want to deny rights to gay couples.(APPLAUSE)
(SANDERS) This is a great country, but we have many, many serious problems. We should not be the country that has the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country and more wealth and income inequality than any other country.
(SANDERS) We should not be the only major country on Earth that does not guarantee health care to all of our people as a right of citizenship and we should not be the only major country that does not provide medical and -- and parental leave -- family and parental leave to all of our families.
(SANDERS) Now, at the end of our day, here is the truth that very few candidates will say, is that nobody up here, certainly no Republican, can address the major crises facing our country unless millions of people begin to stand up to the billionaire class that has so much power over our economy and our political life.
(SANDERS) Jim Webb is right: Money is pouring in to this campaign through super PACs. We are doing it the old-fashioned way: 650,000 individual contributions. And if people want to help us out, BernieSanders.com. We are averaging $30 bucks apiece. We would appreciate your help.(APPLAUSE)
(CLINTON) I think what you did see is that, in this debate, we tried to deal with some of the very tough issues facing our country. Thats in stark contrast to the Republicans who are currently running for president.
(CLINTON) What you have to ask yourself is: Who amongst us has the vision for actually making the changes that are going to improve the lives of the American people? Who has the tenacity and the ability and the proven track record of getting that done?
(CLINTON) Now, I revere my late mother, and she gave me a lot of good advice. But one of the best pieces of advice she gave me was, you know, the issue is not whether or not you get knocked down. Its whether you get back up.
(CLINTON) Americas been knocked down. That Great Recession, 9 million people lost their jobs, 5 million lost their homes, $13 trillion in wealth disappeared. And although weve made progress, were standing but not running the way America needs to.
(CLINTON) My mission as president will be to raise incomes for hard-working middle-class families and to make sure that we get back to the basic bargain I was raised with: If you work hard and you do your part, you should be able to get ahead and stay ahead.
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